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I'd like to see the offense not be so specific. It's like each play is crafted for one great outsmarting of the defense to get one guy open, and when he's not, we dump it to the fullback running parallel to the LOS.

I'd rather see more of just regular offense with Drew taking what's open. We never just grab the low hanging fruit.
 
Twyst said:
People complain about stupid threads/posts in the offseason, but lets be real, the past few years there has been a lot more stupidity to go around once games start being played than in the offseason.
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And so far you haven't been proven incorrect.
 
The Mongoose said:
I'd like to see the offense not be so specific. It's like each play is crafted for one great outsmarting of the defense to get one guy open, and when he's not, we dump it to the fullback running parallel to the LOS.

I'd rather see more of just regular offense with Drew taking what's open. We never just grab the low hanging fruit.
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I sort of think that is what they did on Sunday. Arizona has a great secondary so we took the short stuff to the backs. It actually worked most of the day. They just couldn't finish drives. Although, I have had enough of the WR screen to Cooks to try to feed him the ball.

What I miss is the Payton with the Nutz to try weird ****. I also miss the days when we dictated to a defense what they could not stop instead of them telling us what we can have.
 
kcirdor said:
Exactly my point. :9:

Screen!
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No. Your apparent point was that they ran a lot of screens. And the fact is that one of the few that they ran close to the goal line was only stopped by a great individual play by Arizona. My point is that the screens worked, but they could not really run them close to the end zone which is why they struggled there.
 
We also ran the screen several times against Prevent Defense. The screen absolutely worked when the defense was playing aggressive, but in the red zone, and at the end of the game when the defense isn't playing aggressive we should not be calling screens every 3 plays.
 
kcirdor said:
We also ran the screen several times against Prevent Defense. The screen absolutely worked when the defense was playing aggressive, but in the red zone, and at the end of the game when the defense isn't playing aggressive we should not be calling screens every 3 plays.
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But, when you are playing an aggressive team like Arizona the screen is the best way to attack them. Yes, you will sometimes run the screen when they are not blitzing and get stuffed, but more times than not, the screen game worked on Sunday. Ad in the fact that Arizona also has very good DBs and the best way to attack them was the screen. When I watched the game I too thought they were running way too many screens, but in retrospect, it was working. The problem was nobody other than Coleman stepped up in the red zone. I mean, Brees threw for 355 yards. The problem was we could not run the ball in the red zone (2.7 YPC rushing) and we could not get receivers open in the endzone. Which is why Brees had 355 yards passing, but only one TD.

Part of the problem there is Colston appears to be done. He has lost a step and he is having even more trouble catching and holding onto the ball. He should be a red zone threat, but he's not anymore.
 
This wasn't a "sometimes you run it and it fails", this was exact situations that kill drives. In the red zone and at the end of the game against prevent defense.
 

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