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[St. Widge]

i guess i am a casual LSU fan....i have friends and family that graduated from there but that's about it

if LSU loses, i really don't get about it....

but i agree with frogboy, the :realLSUfans: are terrible for the most part

I don't disagree with that. But, then again, that's more or less true of most of the Saints' fans. Look to F2 for confirmation.

 

[Optimus Walken]

as an LSU fan.. i'll say that a lot of LSU "fans" are pretty clueless about football and what actually goes on in the game because they're so piss drunk they don't even know what's happening.. or they just go to the games since it's a social event. and then when things start going poorly or they look like they might be headed that way.. they all get on msg boards and talk shows and ***** about whatever the current most popular subject to ***** about is. gary crowton was a very popular scapegoat the last couple years. like i said it's become more of a social event for many people than an actual football game and it's kinda sad.

now the same type of fans exist for the saints too.. maybe not as many but it's still the same. look at F2 and you'll see for yourself

as for clothing.. i don't care if you wear saints stuff to an LSU game or LSU stuff to a saints game.. but when someone is actively cheering for LSU at a saints game or the saints at an LSU game.. that's where it would annoy me

 

[Sackhappysaint]

Meh, I love both LSU and the Saints and it doesn't bother me seeing someone geared out in LSU gear for Saints games. The thing is though, I haven't seen anyone in LSU stuff at Saints games. I'm sure they are there, but I haven't seen any. It wouldn't bother if I did see it though.

I can't speak for anyone else but the main reason I love LSU is because most of the kids that play on LSU are from the Louisiana area. I love LA and New Orleans, so for that reason I'm crazy about the Tigers. That's one thing I never could understand about someone from this area that roots on other college teams rather than LSU. That's fine if LSU is not your favorite team, yeah, you were born and raised in New Orleans here but went to school at Bama...so ok, your main team in college is Bama for that reason, I get it and its understandable...but I'm still not seeing how those people could hate LSU. Those are local kids from our area out there playing for the Tigers.

That's the main reason I love LSU football, because I love my city and state and the kids that are in it, THAT much.

 

[The Mongoose]

I don't really want to get too deep into it, Sack, because it's not the point. It doesn't have much to do with the jabroni that purposely flaunts lsu gear at a Saints. But you're falling into the trap. It's a fallacy, mang. Don't get hoodwinked.

I spent 6 years in that godforsaken, cultureless hive of scum and villainy. I'm obviously speaking in absolutes here, but those people hate you. If you're from New Orleans, they hate you. They look down their nose at you, the feel superior to you, and they don't understand you. You put them ill at ease, because they feel somewhat intimated and competitive with you, and this leads to resentment of you. They don't identify with you.

I graduated from there. I saw them from the inside. I saw the looks on their faces in tiger stadium during the Katrina season. There's no brotherhood there.

If you love New Orleans and the saints, then in most cases lsu and Baton Rouge is your rightful enemy.

 

[The Mongoose]

You don't have to believe me though. And I know I being hyperbolic.

 

[Sackhappysaint]

I don't really want to get too deep into it, Sack, because it's not the point. It doesn't have much to do with the jabroni that purposely flaunts lsu gear at a Saints. But you're falling into the trap. It's a fallacy, mang. Don't get hoodwinked.

I spent 6 years in that godforsaken, cultureless hive of scum and villainy. I'm obviously speaking in absolutes here, but those people hate you. If you're from New Orleans, they hate you. They look down their nose at you, the feel superior to you, and they don't understand you. You put them ill at ease, because they feel somewhat intimated and competitive with you, and this leads to resentment of you. They don't identify with you.

I graduated from there. I saw them from the inside. I saw the looks on their faces in tiger stadium during the Katrina season. There's no brotherhood there.

If you love New Orleans and the saints, then in most cases lsu and Baton Rouge is your rightful enemy.

no trap..I love Louisiana football. Sorry, it's that simple.

 

[The Mongoose]

But that's like saying you like both the hatfields and the mccoys.

Which I suppose is possible.

 

[St. Widge]

But that's like saying you like both the hatfields and the mccoys.

Which I suppose is possible.

I don't think the Saints and LSU are Hatfields and McCoys. They are both Hatfields or McCoys, just from a slightly different branch of the family, but they are close. I think part of it for you is that you grew up a Tulane fan and that leads you to always see LSU as the enemy. The truth is that there is a huge cross-over between LSU and Saints fans. In fact, very few LSU fans aren't also Saints fans. The exception to that rule are the Baton Rouge natives that also went to LSU, but as far as LSU fans who aren't from Baton Rouge, almost all of them are also Saints fans.

And, I went to LSU too so I know the attitude toward New Orleans and people from there that you are talking about. But, I think you have confused the attitude of Baton Rouge natives as being the same as the attitude of LSU fans.

 

[antipop]

rougies

 

[The Mongoose]

Well Widge that's incredibly sensible. But where's the fun in being sensible.

Of course there's a huge overlap. And just as most lsu fans are morans, so are most saints fans. Especially now. In the old days, when there were +/- 40,000 saints season ticket holders, I maybe could make a different argument. But those old school 40,000 faithful have been overrun, trampled, and diluted by the unwashed masses.

Sometimes it's much more fun to hate without a foolproof argument, clinging to a mere kernel of logic or reason. And that's what I'll continue to do.

But there's also this: if you have two, you don't really have one. Feast on that.

I am a Saints fan. I have no fallback position. Even before the spread offense ruined college football by creating a generation of horrible quarterbacks, my interest in college ball was minor. All my eggs are in the Saints basket.

Some years ago, I bought a watch. I plan to one day give this watch to my kid, after many years of me wearing it. Recently, I've had a craving to get another watch, but I don't. You know why? Because if you have two, you really don't have one. This watch will be on my arm every day; I won't be deciding between one or the other. At the risk of anthropomorphizing too much, I'm developing a relationship with this one watch that wouldn't occur if there was another watch involved. And if I raise my kid right, he'll appreciate that after they plant me.

I humbly (or self righteously, whatever) submit that those who only have the Saints are more committed, more invested, and yes, bigger fans than those who also share their football related emotional resources with lsu.

So in the words of me, which I've noticed antipop co-opted in another thread, take that.

 

[St. Widge]

Well Widge that's incredibly sensible. But where's the fun in being sensible.

Of course there's a huge overlap. And just as most lsu fans are morans, so are most saints fans. Especially now. In the old days, when there were +/- 40,000 saints season ticket holders, I maybe could make a different argument. But those old school 40,000 faithful have been overrun, trampled, and diluted by the unwashed masses.

Sometimes it's much more fun to hate without a foolproof argument, clinging to a mere kernel of logic or reason. And that's what I'll continue to do.

But there's also this: if you have two, you don't really have one. Feast on that.

I am a Saints fan. I have no fallback position. Even before the spread offense ruined college football by creating a generation of horrible quarterbacks, my interest in college ball was minor. All my eggs are in the Saints basket.

Some years ago, I bought a watch. I plan to one day give this watch to my kid, after many years of me wearing it. Recently, I've had a craving to get another watch, but I don't. You know why? Because if you have two, you really don't have one. This watch will be on my arm every day; I won't be deciding between one or the other. At the risk of anthropomorphizing too much, I'm developing a relationship with this one watch that wouldn't occur if there was another watch involved. And if I raise my kid right, he'll appreciate that after they plant me.

I humbly (or self righteously, whatever) submit that those who only have the Saints are more committed, more invested, and yes, bigger fans than those who also share their football related emotional resources with lsu.

So in the words of me, which I've noticed antipop co-opted in another thread, take that.

I believe you also are a Hornets fan, does that make you less of a Saints fan?

Where do you draw the line? I mean the Saints and LSU could never play so I see no conflict. One is my favorite NFL team and one is my favorite college team. And, I'm a Cubs fan too, but I don't see how that affects my Saints fandom. But, honestly, even if it does make me "less of a fan", I really don't care. I grew up as a fan of both and I always will be. And not matter how embarrassed I occasionally am of LSU fans, I'll always know that at least they aren't Bama fans, so it could be worse.

 

[Optimusaint]

the point is, stop wearing purple to the dome unless you are a vikings fan and we are actually playing the vikings. if you are a saints/lsu fan, definitely do not wear purple when we are playing the vikings.

and dont use LSU as your fallback when the saints lose. take the loss like a man. if the LSU/bama BCS championship game happens, i have half a mind to go to that game just on the odd chance that i get to say "at least we still have the saints" or chant WHODAT and "NFC! NFC! NFC!" if LSU loses. just to show them how it feels.

 

[The Mongoose]

I believe you also are a Hornets fan, does that make you less of a Saints fan?

Where do you draw the line? I mean the Saints and LSU could never play so I see no conflict. One is my favorite NFL team and one is my favorite college team. And, I'm a Cubs fan too, but I don't see how that affects my Saints fandom. But, honestly, even if it does make me "less of a fan", I really don't care. I grew up as a fan of both and I always will be. And not matter how embarrassed I occasionally am of LSU fans, I'll always know that at least they aren't Bama fans, so it could be worse.

It's a really easy line to draw. I only care about the Saints. I'm mildly interested in the hornets because I love basketball and they have "New Orleans" in their name.

But if you told me the hornets would have to leave town so that the Saints could beat, say, Jacksonville in a random week three matchup, I'd help Chris Paul pack up his stuff and would give him a lift to the airport.

It's all about the Saints, bruh. Nothing else holds a candle. I have no other sports related investments.

 

[The Mongoose]

the point is, stop wearing purple to the dome unless you are a vikings fan and we are actually playing the vikings. if you are a saints/lsu fan, definitely do not wear purple when we are playing the vikings.

and dont use LSU as your fallback when the saints lose. take the loss like a man. if the LSU/bama BCS championship game happens, i have half a mind to go to that game just on the odd chance that i get to say "at least we still have the saints" or chant WHODAT and "NFC! NFC! NFC!" if LSU loses. just to show them how it feels.

Yeah, we're digressing. The people who wear purple to the dome are doing it to make a point. It's a purposeful brush against the grain. Get outta here with that stuff.

It's the type of thing I would do if forced to go to an lsu game. And there would be malice in my act.

 

[antipop]

f9 + f2 = :realfan: talk

or

Yeah, we're digressing.

take that