NFL Draft This is not a historically good draft. Don’t be upset if we draft Jaxson Dart high. (52 Viewers)

Guys, show me a Myles Garrett, Josh Allen, Willie Roaf, Terrell Owens, Troy Polamalu. This is a mid tier draft with a solid top 100 to even top 150. It’s deep at edge and RB. But edge is not top tier. Wide receiver, QB, OT is weak. IOL is bolstered by the tackles.

CB is super weak. DI is mid. LB is mid. TE is mid, idc if everyone thinks it’s deep bc most of those guys are not in-line TEs.

Safety is also weak. This draft is not as good as 2017 that turned out to be sneaky good for us at least.
Those players that you mentioned, they're like unicorns, Steph Curry types, different breed. You're not going to get that every year.

WR and OT seems to be weak though.
 
Taking Dart at 9 would be a reach. Maybe not a waste of the pick but I think you could trade back Ang get another pick and Dart. So it would actually be a waste of a pick.
We need to stop wasting picks, by trading up or reaching for somone too high. We need to start taking BPA and getting great value for our picks.
 
Taking Dart at 9 would be a reach. Maybe not a waste of the pick but I think you could trade back Ang get another pick and Dart. So it would actually be a waste of a pick.
We need to stop wasting picks, by trading up or reaching for somone too high. We need to start taking BPA and getting great value for our picks.

The problem there is that if you have a strong enough convinction that Dart is first round worthy, do you really want to mess around like that risk-wise?
 
I wouldn't think that we would take Dart or any QB high just because we have a first round grade on him. It's deeper than that because we have an offensive minded young first time head coach. Moore will likely need to believe Dart is his guy. His young HC career will be hitched to his QB.

He has Carr to start with by default and shouldn't be judged completely by Carr's results. If he drafts a guy in round one, develops him, and eventually puts him on the field, that's going to be all him.

That being said, if Moore believes in Dart enough to bet his job as an NFL head coach, then we shouldn't have any reservations at taking Dart or any other QB at pick 9. So I would be all-in on Dart if he's the choice, and then ride or die with our new HC.
 
The Jets/Browns way ?

Jaxson Dart would be a terrible choice for us at #9
I was thinking more like the Packers way of drafting QBs at the tail end of your HOF QB's run.

But TBH I would take either Darnold or Baker over what we have on our roster right now.

Basically I am in favor of drafting QBs often because they are so hard to find - you should give yourself as many chances as possible to find a good one.
 
I would be mad because we need to put some guys in place for when Arch gets here.
So, IF Arch plays like everyone thinks he will, and he does decide to come out, we would need to be 0 and 17 to guarantee that #1 slot. And with a new coach, I don't see it. Unless next year you make Ricky Williams type trade to move up to get him. And who is to say they wouldn't pull a Eli and not go to a place he's drafted. Too hard to say you will get a certain player.
 
Saints ain’t drafting no QB high with how much they like their room with Carr and Rattler.
thats Mickey Loomis' thoughts for sure. Im just hoping that the new staff is assertive. And i hope KM's career will be determined from these draft picks. Therefore i hope he isnt swayed. KM knows offense, we're probably picking offense. If we chose Dart then that means KM made the decision, and im ok with that. I do like that Dart is from the sec and played under one of the best offensive savants in Lane. With that said, the biggest question mark is, is he really that much better than Rattler? or is any of the QBs not named Ward better than Rattler?
 
Dart did most his damage against 5 bad out of conference schools and Arkansas. In the 7 games he played quality competition he was very average. I find it hard to buy into him.
 
So, IF Arch plays like everyone thinks he will, and he does decide to come out, we would need to be 0 and 17 to guarantee that #1 slot. And with a new coach, I don't see it. Unless next year you make Ricky Williams type trade to move up to get him. And who is to say they wouldn't pull an Eli and not go to a place he's drafted. Too hard to say you will get a certain player.
Highly doubt he declares next year.
 
I’m revisiting the Dart possibility after giving up on him earlier. I’m not saying that he’s worth pick 9 or pick 40 even. What I am saying is that the player we would have missed out on will not likely be a huge impact player.

We are the least likely team to even draft a QB that high, historically. So get excited that the team took the chance on a guy they like. Payton started with Brees, Loomis is trying to recreate that with Moore, and bring in a QB to start the Kellen Moore era.

It’s in the numbers. Pick 9 DB wore 9. We only ever drafted a QB from Ole Miss in the common draft.

Dart can sit behind Carr for one season after taking over. He’ll probably play because Carr has been getting hurt every season.

Last year we knew we needed a tackle and we drafted Fuaga, my favorite. The year before we knew we needed D interior and knew if Bresee fell we’d pick him.

The year before that we knew we needed receiver and tackle. Olave was obvious and Penning was, well typical small school Saints pick.

We aren’t hearing much this year. They’re keeping it close to the vest. Only Mel Kiper, surprisingly is taking a guess at Dart. Local media guys are not as in the loop it seems. They don’t sound as certain as years past.

Don’t blow up if Dart is the pick at 9.
I would rather a position of need. But if CKM feels Dart is the guys and targets him (😉), I’m good with it. I’ve been good with what’s been done so far in free agency, so I’m just going to keep trusting and believing.
 
thats Mickey Loomis' thoughts for sure. Im just hoping that the new staff is assertive. And i hope KM's career will be determined from these draft picks. Therefore i hope he isnt swayed. KM knows offense, we're probably picking offense. If we chose Dart then that means KM made the decision, and im ok with that. I do like that Dart is from the sec and played under one of the best offensive savants in Lane. With that said, the biggest question mark is, is he really that much better than Rattler? or is any of the QBs not named Ward better than Rattler?
By most people’s opinion this may not be the best draft for the Saints to take a QB in the first round since Archie Manning. So, it may be best that they don’t reach this year and give Rattler a shot. He may be just as good as the QB’s coming out of this draft as you pointed out.
 

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