Training camp practice updates 8-25-23 (2 Viewers)

[SonOfNOLA]

 

[football]

Pick one to rather have?... Some might disagree but prefer a good pass rush over a good offensive line. Got to have both but seeing quarterbacks standing in the pocket all day infuriates me.

 

[Rexman100]

This Grupe vs Lutz decision is tough. With a vet he's more used to pressure kicks and kicking in harsh noisy, windy, cold environments compared to a rookie. A kicker has to be 85% and 100% XP in my opinion.

Justin Tucker (Ravens) the best kicker in the league stats compared to Will cLUtz. (scroll down) Wow, what happened to Luts in 2020? He went from Elite to terrible in 2022. By the way Tuckers lifetime is 90.5 and Lutz is still a decent 84.6 ( i wish i could edit the column widths)

Year	Team	FG ATT	FGM	PCT	COMB	AST
2022	Ravens	43	37	86.0	2	1
2021	Ravens	37	35	94.6	-	-
2020	Ravens	29	26	89.7	1	0
2019	Ravens	29	28	96.6	-	-
2018	Ravens	39	35	89.7	-	-
2017	Ravens	37	34	91.9	3	0

WILL LUTZ
2022	Saints	31	23	74.2	-	-
2020	Saints	28	23	82.1	-	-
2019	Saints	36	32	88.9	-	-
2018	Saints	30	28	93.3	3	0
2017	Saints	36	31	86.1	3	1
2016	Saints	34	28	82.4	1	0 0
Career		195	165	84.6	7	1

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Pick one to rather have?... Some might disagree but prefer a good pass rush over a good offensive line. Got to have both but seeing quarterbacks standing in the pocket all day infuriates me.

A good pass rush any day because we need pressure to get stops on defense and maintain leads. A good QB who gets the ball out quickly and maneuvers the pocket can make it work with an average OL.

I think we have two really good-great OL in Ramcyzk and McCoy, and two other OL in Ruiz and Penning who will be on their level soon. I don’t think our OL is bad or average at all. We have the talent in most of the starters.

 

[football]

A good pass rush any day because we need pressure to get stops on defense and maintain leads. A good QB who gets the ball out quickly and maneuvers the pocket can make it work with an average OL. I think we have two really good-great OL in Ramcyzk and McCoy, and two other OL in Ruiz and Penning who will be on their level soon.

Ruiz has improved. Penning just need reps and some time and patience.

 

[St.Dan]

I still consider Lutz an elite kicker. It’s not like he went full-on Lohmiller out there last year.

And the mid-90’s regime once said Morten Andersen was on his way out….he ended up playing just as long with other teams as he did for the Saints and was inducted into the HOF.

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

I still consider Lutz an elite kicker. It’s not like he went full-on Lohmiller out there last year.

And the mid-90’s regime once said Morten Andersen was on his way out….he ended up playing just as long with other teams as he did for the Saints and was inducted into the HOF.

Lutz is a good kicker and will continue to be a good kicker well into his 30s. But if you look around the league, good kickers tend to move around in their late 20s and early 30s. Unless you have an elite kicker, most kickers will be kicking for a different team at some point. There's probably only a handful of veteran kickers who are still with their first team in the league.

Is Lutz elite? I think there's a good chance he is and I feel that last season was a down year which every kicker will have. Would I keep him? Yes because he is a proven ice cold game winning kicker and those are hard to find.

 

[livefromDC]

Lutz is a good kicker and will continue to be a good kicker well into his 30s. But if you look around the league, good kickers tend to move around in their late 20s and early 30s. Unless you have an elite kicker, most kickers will be kicking for a different team at some point. There's probably only a handful of veteran kickers who are still with their first team in the league.

Is Lutz elite? I think there's a good chance he is and I feel that last season was a down year which every kicker will have. Would I keep him? Yes because he is a proven ice cold game winning kicker and those are hard to find.

I'm with you. Lutz had been dealing with injuries right? It's one thing if his misses were attributable to shaking of rust versus mental.

 

[lapaz]

Lutz is a good kicker and will continue to be a good kicker well into his 30s. But if you look around the league, good kickers tend to move around in their late 20s and early 30s. Unless you have an elite kicker, most kickers will be kicking for a different team at some point. There's probably only a handful of veteran kickers who are still with their first team in the league.

Is Lutz elite? I think there's a good chance he is and I feel that last season was a down year which every kicker will have. Would I keep him? Yes because he is a proven ice cold game winning kicker and those are hard to find.

The thing about Lutz is that his kicks usually have an odd spin so they are more unpredictable.

 

[nolaswede]

From the left hash mark he is $, due to his right to left kicks. He seems to almost at the goal post, and it naturally hooks a little. When he kicks from the right side, I usually go to the bathroom!

 

[CTSaint]

This Grupe vs Lutz decision is tough. With a vet he's more used to pressure kicks and kicking in harsh noisy, windy, cold environments compared to a rookie. A kicker has to be 85% and 100% XP in my opinion.

Justin Tucker (Ravens) the best kicker in the league stats compared to Will cLUtz. (scroll down) Wow, what happened to Luts in 2020? He went from Elite to terrible in 2022. By the way Tuckers lifetime is 90.5 and Lutz is still a decent 84.6 ( i wish i could edit the column widths)

WILL LUTZ
2022	Saints	31	23	74.2	-	-
2020	Saints	28	23	82.1	-	-
2019	Saints	36	32	88.9	-	-
2018	Saints	30	28	93.3	3	0
2017	Saints	36	31	86.1	3	1
2016	Saints	34	28	82.4	1	0 0
Career		195	165	84.6	7	1

That downward trend in kicking % is concerning along with the yearly XP miss.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

That downward trend in kicking % is concerning along with the yearly XP miss.

He has missed 7 XPs in 6 years. Why is that bad? They are not automatic any more.

 

[CTSaint]

He has missed 7 XPs in 6 years. Why is that bad? They are not automatic any more.

I guess youre right on the XP.

 

[limeyjohn]

I like Lutz, l really do, but you have to go with the kicker who shows the best form in preseason and training camp
Of course it would be a big risk to cut or trade him but could also be a bigger risk keeping him

 

[St. Geezy]

He has missed 7 XPs in 6 years. Why is that bad? They are not automatic any more.

Yep...even Justin Tucker isn't automatic anymore.