Trevor Penning is PFF’s top graded Saint; Penning is highest graded NFL OT in Week 10 (3 Viewers)

[Filaphill]

I watch some of the game footage the dude was mualing the LB's out there. Penning clearly looked like the best offensive lineman in the game.

Good job big Penn, he gradually improved every week that alone speaks volumes about his work ethic and mental toughness.

 

[St. Widge]

Injuries...also, Marrone is bad at his job.

That's like the Bat Signal for DSnfla.

 

[Jesse Custer]

That's like the Bat Signal for DSnfla.

I expect a facepalm from him anytime I post anything.

 

[kwkrnu]

I'd like to see the Saints grab a C and G in the draft....maybe a couple G. Depth is a huge issue.

 

[Tulsa Saint]

We definitely need a G in the 3rd with maybe the WSH pick.

Also wouldn’t be opposed to just locking it down with a Tyler Booker or something early in the 2nd.

Bring back Patrick for depth

 

[Covington Saint]

Bring back Patrick to start, draft a G depth and hope Patrick has a healthier season.

keep continuity with fuaga, patrick, mccoy, ruiz, penning.

 

[BoxerJoe]

Correct. Dude just needed better coaching and a reason to believe in himself. I’m glad he never mentally crumbled under the pressure

Some of it was definitely coaching, but I think a good bit was just Penning working hard and turning the corner when it came to believing in himself. Even after working with Duke Manyweather in the offseason, Penning still struggled in preseason and I remember Manyweather posting how Trevor just seemed to not be trusting the technique that he was shown at all.

 

[Clintonrebel]

If McCoy and Ruiz can get healthy/stay healthy a few more years, this group might go from Achilles heel to strength, which I guess isn't saying much because all of our strengths all of a sudden are on IR.

But seriously, McCoy, Ruiz, Penning and Fuaga could be a solid group. We might actually draft something besides OL in the first round.

 

[DSnfla]

If your child is doing something that harms themselves, including something like touching a hot stove, do you continue to allow them to do it and hope they learn the lesson eventually, or do you step in and fix the situation so that your child doesn’t suffer anymore?

If we had players not smart enough to know the benefits of warming up, or were too lazy to partake, all while in the midst of an unprecedented string of annual injures, then you step in and correct it, just as Rizzi has.

Pro football players are not children and a lot of them resent being treated a such. This whole warm up thing has been blown out of proportion. Do you really think that if a player was repeatedly skipping warm ups and was having injury issues DA or the position coaches or even the conditioning staff did not tell them they needed to do stretching and warm ups???
I'm no fan of DA as a HC but blaming him or even thinking that our injury issues are because he didn't make warn-ups mandatory is really stretching it ( pun intended)
Rizzi is just trying to shake things up, yeah it's needed but making warm-ups mandatory is small potatoes
If mandatory warm-ups were important did SP have them and just how did that work for him in 2019 when we were the most injured team in the league. Or how about the Pels? Do they have mandatory warm-ups? If so how is that working out for them ??

 

[DSnfla]

It was less than just 2.5 seasons for Penning. His first year was marred by injury. The problem is we are ready to call players busts too early when they’re a couple years into their careers.

Completely agree, The problem is people just look at the surface and don't dive into why things are happening, or they just truly don't know what's happening because they don't have a trained eye

 

[DSnfla]

I think part of the issue is the Saints drafted Penning when we had a clear need at LT and really had no other options to start at LT at the time. And the Saints then installed him as the starting LT as a rookie which lead fans to believe that he must be ready to start.

He clearly wasn't and we the fans should have been more patient with him and other guys who take more time to develop, but the team didn't help by handing him the starting LT job as a rookie before he was ready and then doubling down on that and starting him in his 2nd year before he was ready. They really should have brought in a vet to start at LT or figured out that Peat could play LT before later last year.

Most of TP's issues were not his fault. Injuries in his 1st season AND the offseason after kept him from getting reps. Marrone being abysmal and starting him at the beginning of his 2nd season was a big mistake.
Also the thing is informed people knew he was not quite pro-ready when drafted especially at pass-pro. Now he's getting better PFF scores than Fuaga

 

[DSnfla]

Some of it was definitely coaching, but I think a good bit was just Penning working hard and turning the corner when it came to believing in himself. Even after working with Duke Manyweather in the offseason, Penning still struggled in preseason and I remember Manyweather posting how Trevor just seemed to not be trusting the technique that he was shown at all.

Not some , a lot of it was coaching not just Marrone but the decision to start hin last yr was bad after hardly any work in his 1st yr and the offseason

 

[DSnfla]

That's like the Bat Signal for DSnfla.

Alfred , meet me in the bat cave

 

[St. Geezy]

Pro football players are not children and a lot of them resent being treated a such. This whole warm up thing has been blown out of proportion. Do you really think that if a player was repeatedly skipping warm ups and was having injury issues DA or the position coaches or even the conditioning staff did not tell them they needed to do stretching and warm ups???
I'm no fan of DA as a HC but blaming him or even thinking that our injury issues are because he didn't make warn-ups mandatory is really stretching it ( pun intended)
Rizzi is just trying to shake things up, yeah it's needed but making warm-ups mandatory is small potatoes
If mandatory warm-ups were important did SP have them and just how did that work for him in 2019 when we were the most injured team in the league. Or how about the Pels? Do they have mandatory warm-ups? If so how is that working out for them ??

I’m not here to talk Pels, couldn’t care less about them or the NBA, nor am I hear to talk about the past Saints teams, and I also don’t know what SP’s policy was on this years ago.

All I know is our current team has had abnormal injury issues and the current head coach decided to make warming up mandatory. I support his decision and I believe he feels it’s best for the team.

Whether you think so or not doesn’t matter. I stand with Rizzi and think it’ll pay dividends. You think it’s treating people like children but apparently he thinks otherwise. I’ll go ahead and side with the man currently holding a head coaching position in the NFL and seeing immediate results both on the field and off, based on player comments.

 

[DSnfla]

I expect a facepalm from him anytime I post anything.

I have done that a bit in the past, but lately I find myself agreeing with you. At least sometimes LOL