TruSaint's Mock Draft 2.0 (2 Viewers)

[SAINTSFAN]

Will Xavier Watts be available that late? He is a 2nd round project at latest with most that I have seen

I cannot see him available that late and would be pleasantly shocked if Graham were there at 9.

 

[Swampy Saint]

Unfortunately this is just not happening.

Zero chance he drops past the Jets.

Jets have their QB?

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Jets have their QB?

Huh?

Mason Graham is an iDL.

 

[SWJJ]

Huh?

Mason Graham is an iDL.

jets may draft a qb

 

[Swampy Saint]

jets may draft a qb

It doesn't look like they have much choice in the matter.

Rogers is done. Whether he comes back or not, he's done.

I suppose they could go the free agency route, but if the top-rated quarterbacks are still on the board, I just don't see them passing on quarterbacks.

 

[Swampy Saint]

Huh?

Mason Graham is an iDL.

I should have explained myself.

 

[TruSaint]

Unfortunately this is just not happening.

Zero chance he drops past the Jets.

We shall see

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

jets may draft a qb

Sure but they also desperately need iDL help and Mason is by far BPA.

He will not make it to pick 9.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

We shall see

I mean I guess but a universal top 3 talent dropping to 9 seems like almost 0 chance of happening.

Especially with as bad of a QB class this year.

Any mock with Graham, Carter, Tet, or Hunter are just wishful thinking.

 

[AARPSaint]

As someone who watches zero college football, I find these sorts of threads interesting and useful. When the actual draft happens—and it can’t happen soon enough—I’ll at least have a concept of who the players are.

 

[kennydfresh]

No Trades:

9. Mason Graham - DT
40. Tate Ratledge - G
71. Ashon Gilette - DE
91. Jayden Higgins - WR
110. Zy Alexander - CB
128. Mitchell Evans - TE
182. Xavier Watts - S
251. Joshua Gray - G
254. Tyreem Powell - LB

Not bad but unless they find Mason Graham smoking crack before the draft there is no way he is at 9. That win in NY costed us Mason Graham.

 

[la. champ1]

No Trades:

9. Mason Graham - DT
40. Tate Ratledge - G
71. Ashon Gilette - DE
91. Jayden Higgins - WR
110. Zy Alexander - CB
128. Mitchell Evans - TE
182. Xavier Watts - S
251. Joshua Gray - G
254. Tyreem Powell - LB

Love your first five picks. Jayden Higgins is steal. Not sure he last that long but he’s exactly what we lacking at WR.

 

[DSnfla]

We've taken OL and DL in the first in the last 7 drafts and 9 of the last 10 with the exception being Lattimore. We drafted Olave in the first one year but still got Penning just a handful of picks later.

Meanwhile our supporting cast for Carr/Rattler, is a 30 year old RB who can't handle the load by himself, 35 year old FB/TE/RB/QB who can't stay healthy, Olave who is best served as a #2 if you want him to stay healthy, Shaheed/MVS as deep threats who both missed time, Shaheed a lot of it and a meh TE.

I mean maybe he's not wrong... Our cupboard is bare. We're trotting out UDFA's by the halfway point and then wondering why Carr is getting hurt and asking our 5th round QB to move an offense with nothing to work with.

Not only would I be taking Jeanty at #9, I'd be trading up from the 2nd to land Warren. We absolutely need someone who can make contested catches and he's great at it with elite hands.

1st Just because you haven't hit or had an awful DL and OL coach and didn't develop those OL and DL does not mean that you don't need quality OL and DL , And saying that just because we have drafted 1st rnd OL and DL in the last 7 does not mean we say " Heck with it no more "Fat Guys" . Because without those fat guys all your WR, TE and RBs mean nothing.

And if you don't have the fat guys on the DL you can't stop the run or rush the passer

A QB gets hurt due to poor OL play not because he has UDFAs at the skill positions

Like I said I'm all for taking T-Mac if he's there @9 . But I'm not reaching for Jeanty @9 and passing on Graham or Carter because while you all think it's important to score points, it's just as important to keep the other team FROM scoring points

This draft is fairly deep with the X WR that we need. T-Mac, Harris, Higgins , Savion Williams . Egbuka, Prather.
And some good TEs , Warren , Loveland Fanning, Taylor
RBs are fairly deep. Jeanty , Judkins , Hampton, Johnson Giddens

 

[JackDiesel]

1st Just because you haven't hit or had an awful DL and OL coach and didn't develop those OL and DL does not mean that you don't need quality OL and DL , And saying that just because we have drafted 1st rnd OL and DL in the last 7 does not mean we say " Heck with it no more "Fat Guys" . Because without those fat guys all your WR, TE and RBs mean nothing.

And if you don't have the fat guys on the DL you can't stop the run or rush the passer

A QB gets hurt due to poor OL play not because he has UDFAs at the skill positions

Like I said I'm all for taking T-Mac if he's there @9 . But I'm not reaching for Jeanty @9 and passing on Graham or Carter because while you all think it's important to score points, it's just as important to keep the other team FROM scoring points

This draft is fairly deep with the X WR that we need. T-Mac, Harris, Higgins , Savion Williams . Egbuka, Prather.
And some good TEs , Warren , Loveland Fanning, Taylor
RBs are fairly deep. Jeanty , Judkins , Hampton, Johnson Giddens

Graham and Carter are universal top 3-5 players in the draft, no one is passing on them. If I had 2 good DE's I'm still drafting Carter. T-Mac fits into that category as well. As it currently stands it's pretty unrealistic having them make it to us. Jeanty is a universal top 10, at least he's plausible.

Draft depth doesn't really factor into the top 10 picks because there are only a handful of blue chip players available. That's like saying no I'm going to pass on Saquon Barkley because I might be able to draft Rashad Penny, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, or Darius Guice later. I don't think the Raiders regret drafting Bowers so they could have drafted a less talented DT/DE. Elite talent is elite talent.

And without good skill players all those fat guys mean nothing... Did Cincy having no offensive line stop Chase from getting open? No. Everything around Nabers is trash, even his QB, but he's still producing. Without a strong run game defenses can tee off on the QB, without WR's that can actually get open the QB has to hold onto the ball longer. You need a RB that can catch and pass protect or it can give away your play to the defense. You can't stop the run or rush the passer if your defense is gassed from the offense constantly going 3 and out.

Football is a game of balance and our team is badly out of balance. We have a lot of underdeveloped young talent on the offensive and defensive lines. A good coach can still develop and get more out of Breese, Penning, Turner, Fuaga, Ruiz, and less so Foskey. We have nothing at the skill positions.