TruSaint's Mock Draft 2.0

[DSnfla]

Graham and Carter are universal top 3-5 players in the draft, no one is passing on them. If I had 2 good DE's I'm still drafting Carter. T-Mac fits into that category as well. As it currently stands it's pretty unrealistic having them make it to us. Jeanty is a universal top 10, at least he's plausible.

Draft depth doesn't really factor into the top 10 picks because there are only a handful of blue chip players available. That's like saying no I'm going to pass on Saquon Barkley because I might be able to draft Rashad Penny, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, or Darius Guice later. I don't think the Raiders regret drafting Bowers so they could have drafted a less talented DT/DE. Elite talent is elite talent.

And without good skill players all those fat guys mean nothing... Did Cincy having no offensive line stop Chase from getting open? No. Everything around Nabers is trash, even his QB, but he's still producing. Without a strong run game defenses can tee off on the QB, without WR's that can actually get open the QB has to hold onto the ball longer. You need a RB that can catch and pass protect or it can give away your play to the defense. You can't stop the run or rush the passer if your defense is gassed from the offense constantly going 3 and out.

Football is a game of balance and our team is badly out of balance. We have a lot of underdeveloped young talent on the offensive and defensive lines. A good coach can still develop and get more out of Breese, Penning, Turner, Fuaga, Ruiz, and less so Foskey. We have nothing at the skill positions.

I've seen mocks where both T-Mac and Graham are available and there is a lot of time and all-star and combine before the draft. And every yr there are surprises
If you had Crosby and Watt as edges and you drafted Carter with your high 1st when you had avg to below avg WRs ,TE and even RB you've just hindered your success as a GM or HC

Go take a look at Gary Kubiak and Mike Shanahan's Broncos teams . Their system took avg RBs and WRs and won SBs . Yes they had Elway but Kubiak had an aging Manning that was past his prime. But they di have good 'GFat Guys"

You've got it backwards a good OL or even a great system that makes an avg OL better gives the QB time to throw and opens holes for even a avg back like CJ Anderson to be an all-pro.

Good fat guys on the DL stop the very good RBs from running all over the field. And the pressure the QB into throwing incompletions, Ints and fumbling the ball so THEY can't score

Yes you are right we need more at the skill positions that's why my #1 target is T-Mac. . But if he's not there and Graham is or by some great luck Carter is . I'm not passing on him to draft a RB @9 even if he is a very good RB because I have AK who had one of his best yrs and is still good for at least 2 more and I still don't know what i have in Miller

 

[IceHot]

I was able to trade down a few times and get lots of picks. I ended up with 7 top 100 picks and 20 over all. This is how you create a youth movement and fix the salary cap. Trade down and get more picks. I shored up the lines with the first 2 picks and then drafted a bunch of playmakers, got some fresh young legs for competition at LBer, and some depth at DT and O-line. I should have done more at edge, but I was offensive minded.

While I am certain that 20 picks is unrealistic, trading back for more picks is what I want to see us do at 9.

Im all for easing back on the cap.

My big problem with this is that a Top 100 Draft pick really isnt significantly better than a UDFA talent.

 

[IceHot]

1st Just because you haven't hit or had an awful DL and OL coach and didn't develop those OL and DL does not mean that you don't need quality OL and DL , And saying that just because we have drafted 1st rnd OL and DL in the last 7 does not mean we say " Heck with it no more "Fat Guys" . Because without those fat guys all your WR, TE and RBs mean nothing.

If Tom Nalen or Gary Zimmerman fell to us at 9 we would be absolute fools not to take them...and I dont care that Nalen was a center drafted in the 7th round (IMO he is a borderline Hof slight). Neil Smith in the first round...sign me up. Heck I would take Harry Swayne, Brian Habib, or even Matt Lepsis in the 2nd and not complain.

But then again I would also take Shannon Sharpe, Terrell Davis, Rod Smith or Steve Atwatter easily in the first round and have no problem trading up in the 2nd to get Ed McCaffery, Bill Romanowski, or John Mobley.

 

[2cmorgan]

This is my mock without trades

 

[OzzieSaint]

This is my mock without trades

I find this very hard to believe...

Walter Nolan at 9 is a reach.
No way Mykel Williams makes it to 40 or Tyler Booker is there at 185. They are both 1st and 2nd round picks easily.
Xavier Truss can be had in the 6th or 7th.

 

[kennydfresh]

I find this very hard to believe...

Walter Nolan at 9 is a reach.
No way Mykel Williams makes it to 40 or Tyler Booker is there at 185. They are both 1st and 2nd round picks easily.
Xavier Truss can be had in the 6th or 7th.

Mykel Williams will make it to the 2nd round, the guy is a project to say the least. He will take at least a season or 2 to be considered a full-time starter anywhere.

 

[Saint Taysom]

If your team doesn’t have a QB, you should draft a QB every year (in the top 3 rounds) until you get one.

The Saints do NOT have a QB

The Saints need a young RB (that can stay on the field)

The Saints need a WR (Olave is soft as baby poo and is 1 more concussion away from his career being over, and Shaheed is too small to stay healthy).

Saints need a TE.

 

[OzzieSaint]

Mykel Williams will make it to the 2nd round, the guy is a project to say the least. He will take at least a season or 2 to be considered a full-time starter anywhere.

So, what you're saying is the Saints will take him at number 9 as an unproven project DE?
Oh wait, he's not from a small school... nevermind

 

[OzzieSaint]

If your team doesn’t have a QB, you should draft a QB every year (in the top 3 rounds) until you get one.

The Saints do NOT have a QB

The Saints need a young RB (that can stay on the field)

The Saints need a WR (Olave is soft as baby poo and is 1 more concussion away from his career being over, and Shaheed is too small to stay healthy).

Saints need a TE.

And a DE, DT, LB, S, CB, IOL.... and the list goes on.

 

[kennydfresh]

So, what you're saying is the Saints will take him at number 9 as an unproven project DE?
Oh wait, he's not from a small school... nevermind

I keep seeing this guy mocked to us and the people who do it want the Saints to go back to mediocrity and become the AIN'T again. This guy is borderline trash.

 

[JackDiesel]

If your team doesn’t have a QB, you should draft a QB every year (in the top 3 rounds) until you get one.

The Saints do NOT have a QB

The Saints need a young RB (that can stay on the field)

The Saints need a WR (Olave is soft as baby poo and is 1 more concussion away from his career being over, and Shaheed is too small to stay healthy).

Saints need a TE.

Only problem with that strategy, especially with a skill position roster as shallow and old as ours is if you draft a QB that early that's one less potential contributor you'll have. We don't have the talent or depth to do that yet.

 

[soggymoss84]

I see a whole bunch of people saying no chance we have a shot at XXX player, so I decided to do my own full mock of the first 8 picks.

Tennessee: Travis Hunter - They are taking the best player in the draft

Cleveland: Cam Ward - They desperately need a QB and getting one while they have a top 2 pick should be a priority, never know where they will end up next season. Cam is good but needs some development.

NYG: Shedeur Sanders - Another team that desperately needs a QB and will draft one this draft otherwise Nabers may demand a trade.

Patriots: Will Campbell - Their offensive line is offensive and they need to get a great LT to protect their young QB. They have plenty of cap space to spend for weapons at WR in free agency.

Jags: Will Johnson - Their greatest needs is arguably at CB, they take the best CB in the draft.

Raiders: Jalen Milroe - Another team that desperately needs a QB and will draft one. I know “its a bad QB draft” but every one of the top QB’s have the tools you look for in a QB, and with Daniels doing so great this season every one of these teams will be looking for their version.

NYJ: Mason Graham - No brainer for them to take him here.

Panthers: Ashton Jeanty - They need a weapon in the backfield to take some pressure off Bryce.

That leaves us with our choice of Abdul Carter or Tet. I really do see 3 QB’s going in the top 10 and you will see that rise of them after the combine.

 

[OzzieSaint]

I see a whole bunch of people saying no chance we have a shot at XXX player, so I decided to do my own full mock of the first 8 picks.

Tennessee: Travis Hunter - They are taking the best player in the draft

Cleveland: Cam Ward - They desperately need a QB and getting one while they have a top 2 pick should be a priority, never know where they will end up next season. Cam is good but needs some development.

NYG: Shedeur Sanders - Another team that desperately needs a QB and will draft one this draft otherwise Nabers may demand a trade.

Patriots: Will Campbell - Their offensive line is offensive and they need to get a great LT to protect their young QB. They have plenty of cap space to spend for weapons at WR in free agency.

Jags: Will Johnson - Their greatest needs is arguably at CB, they take the best CB in the draft.

Raiders: Jalen Milroe - Another team that desperately needs a QB and will draft one. I know “its a bad QB draft” but every one of the top QB’s have the tools you look for in a QB, and with Daniels doing so great this season every one of these teams will be looking for their version.

NYJ: Mason Graham - No brainer for them to take him here.

Panthers: Ashton Jeanty - They need a weapon in the backfield to take some pressure off Bryce.

That leaves us with our choice of Abdul Carter or Tet. I really do see 3 QB’s going in the top 10 and you will see that rise of them after the combine.

This would be awesome if it fell like this.
Tet or Abdul.. can't go wrong with that and fills massive needs for us on either side of the ball.

 

[Snakehead]

I see a whole bunch of people saying no chance we have a shot at XXX player, so I decided to do my own full mock of the first 8 picks.

Tennessee: Travis Hunter - They are taking the best player in the draft

Cleveland: Cam Ward - They desperately need a QB and getting one while they have a top 2 pick should be a priority, never know where they will end up next season. Cam is good but needs some development.

NYG: Shedeur Sanders - Another team that desperately needs a QB and will draft one this draft otherwise Nabers may demand a trade.

Patriots: Will Campbell - Their offensive line is offensive and they need to get a great LT to protect their young QB. They have plenty of cap space to spend for weapons at WR in free agency.

Jags: Will Johnson - Their greatest needs is arguably at CB, they take the best CB in the draft.

Raiders: Jalen Milroe - Another team that desperately needs a QB and will draft one. I know “its a bad QB draft” but every one of the top QB’s have the tools you look for in a QB, and with Daniels doing so great this season every one of these teams will be looking for their version.

NYJ: Mason Graham - No brainer for them to take him here.

Panthers: Ashton Jeanty - They need a weapon in the backfield to take some pressure off Bryce.

That leaves us with our choice of Abdul Carter or Tet. I really do see 3 QB’s going in the top 10 and you will see that rise of them after the combine.

That draft looks pretty good and realistic except for Milroe at 1.8.