N/S Tyreek Hill arrested for traffic violation by stadium in Miami on gameday (Hill played) [Reckless driving & seatbelt charges dismissed] (2 Viewers)

[livefromDC]

Nobody is listening to anyone else. Tyreek should have complied with the officer's commands. The officer/officers were too hot-headed and the other person who stopped should have complied with the officer's commands.

Whole lotta stupidity by everyone IMHO.

BS. They are supposed to be trained to handle interactions with citizens. A police stop DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL. The LEO started the interaction wrong. The public citizen isn't trained on how to interact with confrontational LEOs. This isn't their job, dealing with unruly behavior. But you know who is supposed to be able to deescalate a situation? Do you know who is supposed to know how to approach a vehicle? How to listen to a public complaint? How to correctly ask someone to exit the vehicle? There should have been someone with training on the scene. There wasn't. So it looks like a whole lot of stupidity to you. What I see is someone ignorant of the process and an unfit LEO who should've known better.

 

[ShadowMan]

RESPECT MY AUTHORITAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!

No he wasn't. Watch to video. All he had to do was put his window down and comply, BUT NO,,,,,,Window was tinted heavy and the police could not see inside. Just comply and your're on your way.

 

[livefromDC]

keep your window down, put your window down. if you don't put your window down I'm gonna take you out of the car.
He then gets taken out of the car. then a 3rd party tries to get involved. non of that will end well.

stop watching the Tic Toc lawyers!

Thank God for 3rd Parties getting involved. Can only imagine the amount of death and injuries the public has been able to witness over the past 10 years would be even greater.

 

[saints4eva]

BS. They are supposed to be trained to handle interactions with citizens. A police stop DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL. The LEO started the interaction wrong. The public citizen isn't trained on how to interact with confrontational LEOs. This isn't their job, dealing with unruly behavior. But you know who is supposed to be able to deescalate a situation? Do you know who is supposed to know how to approach a vehicle? How to listen to a public complaint? How to correctly ask someone to exit the vehicle? There should have been someone with training on the scene. There wasn't. So it looks like a whole lot of stupidity to you. What I see is someone ignorant of the process and an unfit LEO who should've known better.

No it's not BS.
I said the officer/officers were too hot-headed. Which is in agreement with your statement that they're supposed to de-escalate the situation. Clearly they did the opposite.


And I stand by what I said that Hill and the other person should have complied with the officer's commands.

Both reactions are stupid, resulting in the mess that the camera caught.

 

[Big_L]

I was taught a long time ago to de-escalate traffic stops by introducing myself by rank/last name. Then advise the operator the reason for pulling them over. Ask if there are any reasons why they committed the infraction, and finally ask for the DL/Insurance. It has always been my opinion that as the trained professional, I control the stop. From a lot of bodycam footage over the last 10 years or so this small step seems to have been lost.

 

[2009ring]

He was never given a chance to refuse to get out of the car, he was unlawfully taken from his car by force! He was never even told why he was being stopped! They never ask for license and registration, they went from 0 to 100 in less time than Hill's McLaren.


I can't wait to hear his full thoughts on this encounter.

This guy is one of the better police watchdog lawyers out there. His youtube channel is a must-follow.

First of all, there is no law that states you have to roll your window down the entire way because a cop tells you to. You need to be able to effectively communicate with them, that is all. There was no reason for Hill to get out of the car other than these cops fragile egos. Grabbing the door handle and yanking him out of the car is a 4th amendment violation, they have no probable cause to remove him from the car as aside from a summary traffic infraction he has committed no real crimes.

These cops get butt hurt the minute someone doesn't cow tow to their excessive egos. I'm just glad Tyreek wasn't holding a pot of boiling water or this thing could have gotten even worse.

 

[Tapxe]

This guy is one of the better police watchdog lawyers out there. His youtube channel is a must-follow.

First of all, there is no law that states you have to roll your window down the entire way because a cop tells you to. You need to be able to effectively communicate with them, that is all. There was no reason for Hill to get out of the car other than these cops fragile egos. Grabbing the door handle and yanking him out of the car is a 4th amendment violation, they have no probable cause to remove him from the car as aside from a summary traffic infraction he has committed no real crimes.

These cops get butt hurt the minute someone doesn't cow tow to their excessive egos. I'm just glad Tyreek wasn't holding a pot of boiling water or this thing could have gotten even worse.

I heard an interview with a police trainer probably 15 years ago on NPR. She was very concerned that systemic training issues were being developed which taught the officers specifically how to skirt the citizens constitutional rights in this manner. Go in hot and blame it all on fear of the driver.

It's been an effective strategy and one upheld by the courts because of qualified immunity.

Folks should do a little research on police states.

A police state describes a state whose government institutions exercise an extreme level of control over civil society and liberties. There is typically little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive, and the deployment of internal security and police forces play a heightened role in governance. A police state is a characteristic of authoritarian, totalitarian or illiberal regimes (contrary to a liberal democratic regime). Such governments are typically one-party states, but police-state-level control may emerge in multi-party systems as well.

I'd say turning a traffic stop into multiple detentions (maybe arrests) because of an inability to be a rational professional officer fits the definition of 'extreme level of control'. At least, if that had happened to me I'd be pretty upset. Unlike Tyreek, any of us or our families in that situ probably go to jail. Maybe it even ruins our lives because we miss work, get fired, and now have an arrest record for the reason.

 

[MikeyF]

This guy is one of the better police watchdog lawyers out there. His youtube channel is a must-follow.

First of all, there is no law that states you have to roll your window down the entire way because a cop tells you to. You need to be able to effectively communicate with them, that is all. There was no reason for Hill to get out of the car other than these cops fragile egos. Grabbing the door handle and yanking him out of the car is a 4th amendment violation, they have no probable cause to remove him from the car as aside from a summary traffic infraction he has committed no real crimes.

These cops get butt hurt the minute someone doesn't cow tow to their excessive egos. I'm just glad Tyreek wasn't holding a pot of boiling water or this thing could have gotten even worse.

Routine Traffic Stops, Your Rights, and Florida Law​

Hill brought this whole episode on himself.
He put himself in harms way!

 

[SweetT]

All I’m saying is, if I were to get stopped by cops, driving a high priced vehicle, with super dark tints……. I would not say something like “Don’t bang on my windows like that” (multiple times), then just hand them my DL, while rolling the window up, then refusing to roll the window down. Not saying there isn’t enough blame to go around……just saying that I would have done things differently if I were Tyreek.

 

[Tapxe]

All I’m saying is, if I were to get stopped by cops, driving a high priced vehicle, with super dark tints……. I would not say something like “Don’t bang on my windows like that” (multiple times), then just hand them my DL, while rolling the window up, then refusing to roll the window down. Not saying there isn’t enough blame to go around……just saying that I would have done things differently if I were Tyreek.

If you live in a free country, then you have the right to do what Hill did. It's his property. The officer is an extension of the state. He has the responsibility to react in a professional manner. He escalated likely thinking he had a car that he might get lucky and they find something that allows them to legally confiscate the vehicle via civil forfeiture.

Yes, that is 100% a thing those forces use to gap funding shortfalls while corps and top earners make record returns with less responsibility for system upkeep.

 

[SweetT]

If you live in a free country, then you have the right to do what Hill did. It's his property. The officer is an extension of the state. He has the responsibility to react in a professional manner. He escalated likely thinking he had a car that a black man shouldn't afford so he might get lucky and they find something that allows them to legally confiscate the vehicle via civil forfeiture.

Yes, that is 100% a thing those forces use to gap funding shortfalls while corps and top earners make record returns with less responsibility for system upkeep.

Yeah, he has a right to be a dumb***, I agree.

 

[Tapxe]

Yeah, he has a right to be a dumb***, I agree.

Judge much? You don't know the whole situation. I've dealt with that officer before. It's a powerless feeling. I was respectful and still was treated unprofessionally. I bet your attitude would change 180 degrees if you'd been the target of one of these officers.

Just remember when you're pulled over and disrespected, it's all your fault even if the officer is unprofessional.

 

[SweetT]

Judge much? You don't know the whole situation. I've dealt with that officer before. It's a powerless feeling. I was respectful and still was treated unprofessionally. I bet your attitude would change 180 degrees if you'd been the target of one of these officers.

Just remember when you're pulled over and disrespected, it's all your fault even if the officer is unprofessional.

I’ve been arrested three times in my life for no good reason. Yet I’m not going all NWA and screaming “F the police”.

1.) for fitting the description of some perp they were looking for. I had on a grey t-shirt, jeans, and baseball cap. Told them it was not me and they said that they would make me get into that car one way or another. I complied. Got all the way to the station, upon pulling up, they got a call from another unit found the guy. I had to walk all the way back to my car.

2.) I was arrested for having a prescription pill in my pocket. I was only carrying one bc the script said that I had to take it a certain time of the day (4 hours later). I didn’t want to carry the entire bottle. It was only a real strong version of Tylenol. They thought it was something else. Apparently, the cops had a prior run in with my buddy before (they recognized his vehicle) and I was riding with him. Thats why I was searched. Threw me in jail for 3 days, until I was able to go in front of a virtual judge. Had no phone call, nothing. The only way my mom knew I was in there, was the female that booked me, she and I went to the same high school. She drove two cities over and told my mom what was going on. I lost my job and missed classes bc of that situation.

3.) I was in Berkeley Ca, when a bunch of kids protesting, got hostile when the streets were being cleared. I was just walking, minding my own business, enjoying the city. I was walking in the direction of the protest, so i didn’t think there was any harm. There was no way around that big ole crowd. Bunch of law enforcement units got hostile as well. One cop on a bull horn, cited for everyone to leave asap. I bent down to tie my shoe. A cop ran up and cuffed me.

Sure those experiences were not ideal, but I rather find the silver lining that there were no charges to stick, as opposed to me crying about it. I’ve never been a cop, so I don’t know what they have to deal with, but I’m sure it’s a lot. I rather just comply and let things play out, if I am doing what I’m supposed to be doing, in those situations. Just me though

Also, by you having a bad experience with that same officer, are you inclined to say that you will feel that he was in the wrong, even if he wasn’t in the Tyreek situation? Maybe I’m not the one being judgmental here.

 

[MikeyF]

Judge much? You don't know the whole situation. I've dealt with that officer before. It's a powerless feeling. I was respectful and still was treated unprofessionally. I bet your attitude would change 180 degrees if you'd been the target of one of these officers.

Just remember when you're pulled over and disrespected, it's all your fault even if the officer is unprofessional.

Almost anyone who drives a car has been treated poorly by an police officer at one time or another.

You only make matters worse when you become combative with them.

I had a really short Mississippi State Trooper stop me for doing 75 in a 70 on I-10.
It was close to midnight after I left my dad's house in Gulfport.
He kept shining his high powered flash light in my childrens' eyes who very young at this particular time & they were in the back seat of my truck.
I asked him to stop doing that & he didn't comply.

Instead of getting myself arrested, I contacted his division HQ & filed a complaint against him.

 

[Filaphill]

Routine Traffic Stops, Your Rights, and Florida Law​

Hill brought this whole episode on himself.
He put himself in harms way!

If you are a owner of a billion dollar company and you hire police officers to work detail outside of your facility would you be OK with the police officers harassing and and detaining your highly valuable contract workers you need to help run your company.