" We've got some work to do , to improve that room " Mickey Loomis on our WRs (1 Viewer)

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BreesusSaves said:
Agreed. TQS has had more than his fair share of opportunities to separate himself. I definitely think the Saints can do a lot better than him as a #4 option.
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I say sign him to a cheap contract/keep him around until the team knows they have someone better than him there. That said, you'd be hard pressed to find any #4 guy that's better than TQS unless you're looking at the Bills or Chiefs.
 
TooDopeGoldRope said:
For the lack of anything interesting happening this morning and to cure my boredom , I'd like to speculate on what exactly Mickey intends to do here. He acknowledges that TQS is a free agent and that Deontay Harris is a restricted free agent as well. Loomis also commented on how difficult it is to grab a sought after QB being in the back half of the draft , saying it's " very expensive " to move up for a guy they like. For what it's worth he was also grinning ear to ear when talking about Jameis Winston being an "option " which I digested differently watching myself rather than reading the quote in black and white.

SO , here's my take on what was said , and what we've seen from that group last year.

1. TQS is gone

2. We very well may double dip early in the draft for multiple difference makers at WR. It may be Treylon Burks early and stealing a Jameson Williams. There's multiple guys with size speed and explosion this year. What a year to need a WR.

3. If Harris is gone , Olave will be the pick. If Harris stays , we'll gun for a guy like Treylon Burks. Mickey may value having a guy more like Thomas who's sturdy in case Mike isn't himself or can't shake the bug.



Bonus !!!

I'm going to guarantee that we will score more points this season than we did last year, and if we do , we walk over the NFC south rather convincingly as we should.
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Here we go again. We not drafting Burks, I don't know how many times I gotta tell people something was off when I watched his tape and every time Burks gets on the field his draft stock falls. Everybody except me on here "He's going to run a 4.3, He's going to run a 4.4", NOPE, 4.5 flat. I'll pass, we need some speed. RD1. Garrett Wilson RD2. Trey McBride and then on 3rd and 10 down by 1 in the 4th quarter you have WR1 MT13, WR2 Wilson, WR3 Deonte Harty, TE McBride with "pre-suspension" RB1 Kamara. YOU NOT STOPPING THAT LINEUP, YOU DONE SON.
 
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dutar76 said:
I could see taking two WRs in the draft if the value is there and we don't pick up a guy in free agency.

I usually trust the coaches and front office, but I think we can all agree that it's time we do more than dirt cheap former bust reclamation projects and diamond in the rough UDFA hail-mary hopeful prospects. Whoever our QB ends up being is going to need weapons that can win consistently at the NFL level.

But... a huge part of me still thinks we won't take a receiver in the first round. A more likely scenario in my mind anyway is that we take a WR and a TE in rounds 2, 3, or 4.
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I see no reason Harris would not be back. I hope the only players retained are Thomas, Calloway, and Harris but I feel like everybody will be brought back (even on short term cheap deals) because of "continuity" and we will draft guys to bring on to the team as potential replacements where I think we should just rip the bandage off and go with a rookie draft pick and FA additions to team with Thomas and keep Harris as the KR/PR who get some snaps on offense.
 
EvilMike said:
He will just push the problems on down the line, and years from now the Saints will be carrying lots of dead cap hits.
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So? The point is to have a talented roster (which Saints have) good enough to win a Super Bowl and not to win a cap space award. Some of you act like its your money. Some of you act like you'd rather have a talentless roster and 50 million in cap space.
 
BelowZero said:
I say sign him to a cheap contract/keep him around until the team knows they have someone better than him there. That said, you'd be hard pressed to find any #4 guy that's better than TQS unless you're looking at the Bills or Chiefs.
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What???? TQS is not that good. He’s easily replaceable.
 
livefromDC said:
So? The point is to have a talented roster (which Saints have) good enough to win a Super Bowl and not to win a cap space award. Some of you act like its your money. Some of you act like you'd rather have a talentless roster and 50 million in cap space.
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Not even that, unless the world ends that method will always work as long as the talent is their to justify the contracts. Even if you sign a guy to a deal and he flames out there is a draft every year so you can find his replacement and release the player because like most contracts there are clauses that teams can get out of.

People believe these contracts are iron clad in terms of money due when most contracts are incentive based and in the Saints case these contacts are drawn up to eventually be restructured each year with a signing bonus to create cap space
 
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livefromDC said:
So? The point is to have a talented roster (which Saints have) good enough to win a Super Bowl and not to win a cap space award. Some of you act like its your money. Some of you act like you'd rather have a talentless roster and 50 million in cap space.
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Perfectly said!!!!
 
SweetT said:
What???? TQS is not that good. He’s easily replaceable.
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With who? If he were easily replaceable with superior talent, don't you think he would've been replaced a while ago? Payton, as loyal as he was, was never one to let talent ride the bench while an inferior player played. Just ask Pittman. My point is that TQS is a proven commodity in this offense and he'll come fairly cheap (and if we've seen anything this off-season, it's been continuity. TQS brings that.). He's proven that he can survive crushing hits (unlike Harris/Hardy) despite Brees actively trying to get him killed every time he's touched the ball, he can block when asked, and stays quiet when the ball doesn't go his way (Cooks.). You can ask a rookie to come in and play the same role, but they'll still have to spend most of the season getting comfortable with the plays (Even vets like Sanders had trouble picking it up, and it's unlikely to change with PC taking over as the offensive play caller.). Would you rather have the proven commodity, a possibly decent rookie that'll be more or less redshirted for the season, or overpay for a glorified backup slot WR?

Unless you're replacing him with a Golden Tate/Cole Beasley-type of guy, that #4 spot isn't getting better. That is, unless you bring in a big-name(s) like Godwin/Adams(unlikely)/Fuller/Williams at WR (thus making your #3/#4 some combination of Hardy/Callaway).
 
meily said:
I see no reason Harris would not be back. I hope the only players retained are Thomas, Calloway, and Harris but I feel like everybody will be brought back (even on short term cheap deals) because of "continuity" and we will draft guys to bring on to the team as potential replacements where I think we should just rip the bandage off and go with a rookie draft pick and FA additions to team with Thomas and keep Harris as the KR/PR who get some snaps on offense.
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Are you kidding? For continuity? I don’t want to see any of the WRs from last year, with the possible exception of Harris. I don’t want that kind of continuity thank you very much

As far as Smith being gone, what is there to miss? The dude has issues staying off the bench and is nothing more than a tease when he does play.
 

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