Question What More Must Taysom Hill Do Before He Retires To Be Considered An NFL Hall Of Fame Player? (1 Viewer)

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

It's not beyond reason that Taysom Hill will be considered to be inducted into the NFL HOF based on the many unique NFL Records he holds or shares.

Yes it is.

Hester is a 3x first team all pro
2x second team all pro
4x pro bowler

Taysom has zero accolades. That stuff matters.

He's a great player but he will never make the HOF.

 

[RaginCajun83]

Personally he is one

 

[AARPSaint]

I would agree that he’s the opposite of Devin Hester. The problem is that there are no comparable players to TH.

 

[Artifactual]

What Taysom probably doesn't need is another Artifactual thread about Taysom....

There's always That Guy that can't wait to get on the elevator full of people and let out a big stinker.

I knew you would show up to drop one sooner or later. And I'm expecting a few others to do the same.

You know, if you don't like the threads I start you don't have to click on them. Maybe it would be best for both of us if you just ignored me and/or my posts.

There's a button for that.

Have A Great Day, if you possibly can.

 

[St.Dan]

Devin Hester was inducted into the NFL HOF. He was a One Trick Pony. An Excellent Return Specialist. An ordinary average position player as a WR only.

He doesn't hold or share 36 NFL Records (and counting) as Taysom Hill does.

Every NFL Record held by Devin Hester relates specifically to being a return specialist.

1. Most special teams touchdowns in a career: 20 ( 14 punts, 6 kickoffs, and 1 missed field goal.)

2. Most non-offensive TDs in a career: 20.

3. Most kickoff and punt return TDs in a career: 19.

4. Most punt return TDs in a career: 14.

5. Most punt return TDs in a season: 4 (2007)

6. Most kickoff return TDs for a game: 2 - Tied

7. Most combined return TDs in a season: 6 (2007, 2 kickoffs, 4 punts)

8. Most rookie combined return TDs in a season: 5 (2006, 3 punt, 2 kickoffs.)

9. Most combined return TDs in a game: 2 kickoffs (12/11/06), 1 punt, 1 kickoff (11/25/07)

10. Most non-offensive TDs in a season: 6, twice - 3 punts, 2 kickoffs, 1 missed field goal (2006), 4 punts, 2 kickoffs (2007)

11. Fastest TD in Super Bowl History: 14 seconds.

12. First Super Bowl opening kick returned for a TD: Super Bowl XLI, 92 yards.


The NFL Hall of Fame has broadened their scope of players deserving of induction. Devin Hester was just inducted into the NFL HOF in 2024.

It's not beyond reason that Taysom Hill will be considered to be inducted into the NFL HOF based on the many unique NFL Records he holds or shares.

I can't totally disagree with Hester's induction being a product of recent-year widening of the pool, so to speak. Kenny Easley is another recent example. I remembered his name from the '80s Seahawks watching football as a kid. I remembered him as a solid safety, but I was surely surprised his seven-year career was suddenly considered HOF-worthy.

Hill would have to ball out in a Super Bowl against the current-day Chiefs to elevate his stature to a HOF level.

 

[Covington Saint]

Another unquantifiable statistic about Taysom has been his special teams contributions.

a punt return, 20 kickoff returns, over 1200 + special team snaps... punt blocks, gunner, you name it... just truly dynamic.

 

[kwkrnu]

Doesn't the HOF already have a game jersey from Hill? I don't remember exactly why, but it's something.

 

[SWJJ]

Winning a super bowl would help. I doubt he will be able to achieve any significant statistical milestones. I'd estimate he will need 4-5 more season at a high level of play with 1500 all purpose yards, a few more passing yards and TD, some special teams touchdowns and some tackles on special teams.

He's never had a 1000 yard season in ANY category, not even passing.

Current Career numbers:
Receiving: 94 catches, 906 yards 11 TDs
Rushing: 432 attempts, 2477 yards, 33 TDs
Passing 64% 2369 Yards, 11 TDs.
Kick off returns 489 yards 0 TDs.

I agree with the assessment that it is incredibly difficult for a player with no base position to make the hall of fame.

There are TEs in the Hall of Fame with 5K receiving yards, and RB Gayle Sayers (Hall of Famer) has just shy of 5K rushing yards.

If he is going to have any chance, he needs to surpass those levels. Gayle Sayers and Earl Campbell both had right at 10,000 all-purpose yards.

 

[SWJJ]

Another unquantifiable statistic about Taysom has been his special teams contributions.

a punt return, 20 kickoff returns, over 1200 + special team snaps... punt blocks, gunner, you name it... just truly dynamic.

There is no way that "1200+ special team snaps" is accurate. Maybe that is 120+?

 

[Rouxble]

I can't totally disagree with Hester's induction being a product of recent-year widening of the pool, so to speak. Kenny Easley is another recent example. I remembered his name from the '80s Seahawks watching football as a kid. I remembered him as a solid safety, but I was surely surprised his seven-year career was suddenly considered HOF-worthy.

Hill would have to ball out in a Super Bowl against the current-day Chiefs to elevate his stature to a HOF level.

Easley is 11th overall for DB's on PFR's Hall of Fame Monitor. His score is boosted by five pro bowls, three first team AP selections, and a DPOY award. Hill doesn't have those types of accolades on his resume.

 

[Paul]

Doesn't the HOF already have a game jersey from Hill? I don't remember exactly why, but it's something.

Yes - his jersey and shoes from week 9 of the 2023 season when he became the only NFL player in history with at least 10 TDs in rushing, passing, and receiving.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

He obviously hasn't been anywhere near HOF-level at any one position, but the aggregate of his accomplishments is so unique and substantial enough that I think he has a real chance, especially considering the precedence of inclusion for utility players. He is literally a 1 of 1 player in the annals of the league. He's already on display in the HOF. He just won NFC offensive player of the week as a non-QB at the age of 34. Broadcast teams have referred to him already as a HOF football player.

Don't be surprised if he eventually makes it.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Doesn't the HOF already have a game jersey from Hill? I don't remember exactly why, but it's something.

The game he cleared 25-10-10 touchdowns (rushing, receiving, passing)

Taysom Hill's game-worn gear displayed at Pro Football Hall of Fame to celebrate historic accomplishment

 

[BBarnes]

Loomis!


If you don’t hurry up and get a real staff together and make some moves so Hill can win SB MVP which would guarantee he makes the HOF….

 

[St. Widge]

Winning a super bowl would help. I doubt he will be able to achieve any significant statistical milestones. I'd estimate he will need 4-5 more season at a high level of play with 1500 all purpose yards, a few more passing yards and TD, some special teams touchdowns and some tackles on special teams.

He's never had a 1000 yard season in ANY category, not even passing.

Current Career numbers:
Receiving: 94 catches, 906 yards 11 TDs
Rushing: 99 attempts, 2477 yards, 33 TDs
Passing 64% 2369 Yards, 11 TDs.
Kick off returns 489 yards 0 TDs.

I agree with the assessment that it is incredibly difficult for a player with no base position to make the hall of fame.

There are TEs in the Hall of Fame with 5K receiving yards, and RB Gayle Sayers (Hall of Famer) has just shy of 5K rushing yards.

If he is going to have any chance, he needs to surpass those levels. Gayle Sayers and Earl Campbell both had right at 10,000 all-purpose yards.

Lol. 99 attempts for 2,477 yards. That's over 25 yards per carry. Every offensive coach we have ever had should be fired for not giving him the ball on every down.

Sorry. Joking. You have games played instead of rushing attempts in that list. He has 2,427 yards on 432 attempts for an average of 5.6 YPC. Which is still very good, but not 25 YPC good.

Anyway, you are right that Hill won't have the lifetime numbers for the HoF. He's 34 and he is not likely going to play long enough to get there. So, he would need something like a bunch of All-Pro nods and/or a bunch of Pro Bowl appearances to make the HoF. Alternatively if he was the main offensive weapon on a team that won a Super Bowl or two, that might get him in. But that seems unlikely at this point too.

In the end, he's a great player, but he's just not an NFL HoF player.