Question What More Must Taysom Hill Do Before He Retires To Be Considered An NFL Hall Of Fame Player? (1 Viewer)

[Judge_Smails]

What accomplishments you ask? Obviously you did not read the OP's post. But all one has to do is watch Taysom Hill play to know he is usually the best player on the field. You say Jack of all trades, master of none. I say Jack of all trades, Master of many. I don't think you are truly a Saint's fan to not see how special Taysom has been for the Saints. And the job he is doing this year has been his best yet.

So if someone doesn’t agree with you, they’re not “truly a Saints fan”?

Hill is our unicorn and he’s awesome, but a lotta people been bigger Saints fans than you since before Hill picked up a football.

 

[ilvdsnts]

But in order for Taysom to get into the HOF a lot of it has to be based on the speculation that it is because "he can do what no one else can do" because he doesn't have the stats to justify getting in on sheer numbers.

If I'm a HOF voter, and the premise is "he can do what no one else can do"... I'm going to start to wonder if anyone could have done what Taysom has done. When I start to think about it, it seems like there are a lot of big athletic QB who could have been similar "joker/slash" players had they either not become a starting QB or been in a situation to utilize their unique combination of skills.

I'm not knocking Taysom. I love the guy.

But that is NOT the premise. The premise is he HAS DONE what only 1 other has done. Frank Gifford.

 

[2024InjuryApocalypse]

I will put everyone on notice.
Taysom will be a first ballot HoF five years after he retires!
I know many of you will think it’s not happening but for the biggest reason possible he will be a she in! It’s how he affects the game from a defense point of view. There have been many great players that defenses have to game plan for, WR, RB, great QB but only one that has defenses disturbed completely when he is in the game.

All of the stats mentioned above will aid his trip there but there is no other player that gets the attention throughout the league then Taysome Hill.

He will be accepted not by position as the norm but as a complete football player! A special place for him and his Bust!

I will be willing to bet significant amounts of $ he will not be inducted to Canton five years after he retires (I'd be willing to bet he never gets inducted period). But no betting outlet would take my $ on this bet b/c it's not even a debate anywhere except among people on this forum.

Saints HOF? Yeah, he gets in there for sure. He's not getting to Canton no matter how many people on this forum desperately wish for it to happen. You need national support to be elected into the HOF. Is there any place other than Saints Report that people have gone out there and said he will get into Canton?

And if any other NFL team thought of him as a future HOFer, they would have tried to acquire him at the trading deadline this year.

 

[2024InjuryApocalypse]

So if someone doesn’t agree with you, they’re not “truly a Saints fan”?

Hill is our unicorn and he’s awesome, but a lotta people been bigger Saints fans than you since before Hill picked up a football.

It's not enough for the Taysom cultists for you, me or anyone else to say Taysom is a fun, unique player who will make the Saints Hall of Fame one day. You must think he's one of the greatest of all time and belongs in Canton or you're not a true Saints fan. Any suggestion he is not perfection in a football uniform, that he wouldn't have turned into the next Steve Young at QB if we'd only given him more starts, that he falls short of Canton, that is sacrilege and you must be put in your place.

 

[St4ever]

I will be willing to bet significant amounts of $ he will not be inducted to Canton five years after he retires (I'd be willing to bet he never gets inducted period). But no betting outlet would take my $ on this bet b/c it's not even a debate anywhere except among people on this forum.

Saints HOF? Yeah, he gets in there for sure. He's not getting to Canton no matter how many people on this forum desperately wish for it to happen. You need national support to be elected into the HOF. Is there any place other than Saints Report that people have gone out there and said he will get into Canton?

And if any other NFL team thought of him as a future HOFer, they would have tried to acquire him at the trading deadline this year.

Only time will tell who is right.

 

[2024InjuryApocalypse]

Only time will tell who is right.

True, but I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is on this one. If the apps ever give me an option to bet "Taysom Hill will NOT be a 1st ballot NFL Hall of Famer," I'll be all over it.

 

[FlySaint]

I think Taysom has a shot. Remember, there’s lots of HOF players that are not at Brady, Brees, and Manning’s level. The bar is not at that level. Devin Hester is a more apt comparison and I think Hill compares very well in that scenario.

 

[tinman]

Play a complete season? I was curious, and according to the Googles there are no players in the HOF that never played a whole season.

He played 16 games in 18, 19, 20, 22, 23(missed 1 in the 17 game season)! According to me you missed the boat completely, no matter Google's assertion that doesn't apply to Taysom.
He has missed a grand total of NINE games in his NFL career!
So there's that...

 

[2024InjuryApocalypse]

Devin Hester is 2x All-Decade, 4x All-Pro, and 4x Pro Bowler.

Frank Gifford is 1x NFL MVP, 1x All-Decade, 6x All-Pro, 8x Pro Bowler, along with a SB championship.

All-Pro and Pro Bowl accolades matter the most for HOF induction. Thats the main reason Jahri Evans is near HOF induction. Jahri was recognized as one of the NFL’s best Guards during his entire prime by receiving the highest positional honors in several All-Pro selections.

Taysom has unique / / / slash records but doesn’t have any AP/PB accolades. He has to be recognized as one of the league’s best players for an entire season through APs and PBs. He won’t have a legitimate case for the NFL HOF without the accolades. He would need 1300+ rushing yard seasons or 15-20+ rushing TD seasons for All-Pro consideration. It may be too late for him to have a shot at those awards since he doesn’t get enough rushing touches to rack up higher numbers. He realistically has about 2-3 seasons left before he retires.

Taysom might have a chance for finalist consideration if he can somehow finish his career as a top 20-30 all time NFL rushing TD scorer. He needs 48 rushing TDs to reach 20th, 43 rushing TDs to reach 25th.
Multiple sub 20+ rushing TD seasons before he retires may also put him in the conversation.

Good rundown. Aside from multiple Pro Bowl and AP selections, the majority of hall of fame guys have an all-decade selection, too (good news for Jahri and Cam down the road even if it may take them a while).

 

[bobad]

If he keeps up that winning smile for 3 more years, he's in!

 

[longtime lurker]

He will eventually be in our Saints Hall of Fame and ring of honor. I think that’s pretty cool in itself.

 

[lilvipa221]

I think Taysom has a shot. Remember, there’s lots of HOF players that are not at Brady, Brees, and Manning’s level. The bar is not at that level. Devin Hester is a more apt comparison and I think Hill compares very well in that scenario.

Absolutely incorrect. Devin Hester broke records and has won plenty of honors as an NFL player. Taysom doesn't have anything Hester has done. Hester is the best returner in NFL history. If Taysom was justifiably the best at something and had a ton of random stats then yes but he doesn't.

 

[2024InjuryApocalypse]

Absolutely incorrect. Devin Hester broke records and has won plenty of honors as an NFL player. Taysom doesn't have anything Hester has done. Hester is the best returner in NFL history. If Taysom was justifiably the best at something and had a ton of random stats then yes but he doesn't.

Yep. 4 Pro Bowls, 3 All Pros, and an all-decade team selection for Hester. Zero of any of those accolades for Taysom. Their hall-of-fame resumes are not comparable. Taysom's best attribute is his rushing but even then his rushing numbers (never higher than 575 yards in a season) are nowhere near HOF level. He needs to have a lot of rushing games like the 2022 Seahawks game or this year's Browns game to get consideration. He has a total of three 100-yard rushing games in his entire career.

His passing stats aren't going to make anyone outside of this board say he's a hall of famer (11 TDs to 9 INTs, never started a full season as QB1). He's improved as a receiver but his stats there aren't going to catch HOF voters' eyes either (best season 33 catches for 291 yards). He's a good special teams player, has blocked a few kicks and hustles as a gunner, but...hasn't made a pro bowl for special teams either.

If a current Saints player has a shot at the HOF for all-purpose contributions, it's Kamara (ROY, 5 Pro Bowls, way more rushing & receiving yards & TDs than Taysom).

 

[St. Geezy]

He would have had to accomplish multiple seasons with several games like the one he just had, where we just used Taysom Hill cheese all game long. These efforts would have also needed to have led us to a championship or two with him either having a signature game-deciding championship moment and/or SB MVP. The resume would have also benefited from a couple of 1,000 scrimmage yard seasons.

Unfortunately we figured out way too late that he could be a centerpiece featured player that doesn’t necessarily have to take snaps from the QB position in order to display his dominance.

He will be one of the many forgotten “Hall of Very Good” players the NFL has had over the years.

 

[St. Geezy]

Go look at Jamaal Charles, Anquan Boldin, and Priest Holmes’ Hall of Fame resumes, and even they aren’t sniffing it.

That probably gives us our answer.