i'm well aware. I brought up a great example that went against what solarbear said. TD got into the NFL hall of fame for 3 years worth of work. Two years being fairly exceptional alongside a hall of fame coach and qb with a stud offensive line.
Interesting how timing plays such a big role. Davis racked up two OPOY and an MVP during his best three year stretch, and that helped to vault him into the Hall.
He's played in 104 career games, if it was 120+ that would be just barely over 1 snap per game. 1200 is 11 per game, that sounds right, he lines up for punts, FG and PAT blocks and occassionally returns.
Priest Holmes case might've been helped or strengthened if his Chiefs during his prime 3-year run had won a few post-season games or he appeared in a SB. I know he won a SB with Baltimore back in 2000, but he wasnt the featured, every-down, workhorse RB who got most of the carries (that would be Jamal Lewis). At that particular point in his career development, his role was similar to Michael Turner in San Diego behind L.T. before being picked up by Atlanta and beginning his own, successful career as a Pro-Bowl RB from 2008-2013.
BTW, is Floyd Little one of those two 70's NFL RB's ranked 35 or lower on the HOF's monitor list you referenced in your last paragraph?
With the exception of the two years under late career Montana, the 90s-early 2000s Chiefs had inferior QB play to everyone that knocked them out of the playoffs.
I don't think that is a knock on TH. You make the Pro Bowl based on position ie they pick x number of QBs, x number of WRs, etc. Swiss army knife is not a listed position for the pro bowl. The Pro Football(not NFL) Hall of Fame chooses players, regardless of position, so his lack of position won't hurt him, and I actually think it can help him because of all the comparisons to the likes of Gifford, Thorpe, etc.
I agree with the premise pointed out in your second paragraph for the most part, but their quite a few notable exceptions like for a long time, Floyd Little with the Denver Broncos (he had to wait over 35 years past his retirement to be inducted and back in the early-mid 70's Denver was a small, regional, geographically isolated area that was barely shown in MNF games or other nationwide games.) Then you have Isaac Curtis, another HOF-CALIBER WR, IMHO who if he'd played in a larger market than again another isolated, ignored team like the 70's-early 80's Bengals might be in Canton right now. Then there's Fred Taylor, another 10,000+ career-yard rusher who had what is it: just one Pro Bowl in a 12-13 year career? Because again he played most of his career in an NFL backwater like Jacksonville, his achievements, career durability and greatness got essentially over-looked. In terms of HOF consideration, sometimes geography and market access and availability do matter for players who have long, outstanding careers with high statistical achievements but aren't seen by _______ less millions of people than if they'd had played a majority of their careers in New York, L.A., Dallas, Chicago or Washington D.C.
I'm not sure I agree with the logic of not voting for someone because other people COULD HAVE done what they do even if they didn't. There are a lot of QBs from the 80s that COULD HAVE put up Brady/Brees number if they had played in this era, but they didn't, so should we eliminate Brady/Brees from consideration? I could've been better than Ricky Jackson if my mom wasn't afraid I was gonna get hurt and made me stop playing after Jr High, so does that mean you didn't vote for City Champ? Of course I'm exaggerating to make a point. Sure, those guys could have done it but you make it to the HOF for what you DID. TH7 has done it.
Yes, he is the furthest down the list for RB’s, looks to be #61. Larry Csonka was the other (#39).
Agreed for the most part, although in Marty's case, it wasnt just that late Montana aside, most of his Chiefs QB's or other QB's were inferior compared to teams they played, his ultra-conservative, play not-to-lose opposed to winning and at times being over-cautious and not allowing his defenses to not go for the knockout were huge factors as well. And he still remains one of the most unluckiest NFL playoff HC's probably in NFL history. SWJJ, he had a sheet ton of dumb, stupid inopportune luck like in Cleveland and with San Diego in 2006 (that last one was not on him, but Marlon McCree's incompetence.)
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