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Some of this is fact and some is speculation. I will make a distinction below one from another.

Facts :
The Saints have always planned on keeping Dennis Allen as Head Coach and that is the plan today. Regardless of how we do in the last two games that’s the plan.

Did Ian Rappaport just randomly decide to tweet about DA’s fate ? No. Someone asked him to do that. It’s to start controlling the narrative. So that 100 “who’s the next head coach “ stories aren’t written by National media.

Carmichael will get replaced but it’s going to have to be someone inside the building or someone w a personal relationship. No rising star w options would want the Saints OC job.

Why would they keep DA ? Like I’ve said before - Why does a GM have a “coaches show” on WWL ? Why is there this push to get him in the HOF ? There is a contingent in that building that believed Sean got too much positive attention , that Sean got all the credit when in reality they believed they built a winning “program” and they created the culture of success. DA accepted the job before Sean resigned. They announced DA’s hiring the night Alvin Kamara was making news for being arrested in Vegas it was done and buried. Hiring DA gives these people complete control. Personnel , staff .. everything and I think they actually believed in what they were doing.

If they moved on from DA and hired someone -who will undoubtedly want control -and they wanted to change things … if that Head Coach had success it would look like the last 17 years and any success was about Sean and Drew.

Gayle … She made a nice deal. That’s it. They bring her out when they need it. She visits with people they want to charm or if there are cameras around.

Me speculating in a highly informed way :

I would expect guys like Mike T , Alvin K to get moved. This would be crazy but even someone like Lattimore to get traded. These guys aren’t bought in and see what’s happening so they could get moved and the narrative becomes this team had legacy problems in the locker room. DA needs his own guys to succeed. Guys that are bought in to him.

They probably go BPA with a lean to Left Tackle in the draft. That narrative is Carr is a top half veteran QB and we can contend and win the Division if we get him help.

I would say they would move on from Taysom as well but he’s a real fan favorite.



I would expect Jeff Ireland to be in Denver next year. The GM in waiting thing was a Sean play and he’s gone now. He won’t be back next year - I’d wager good money on that. That also gives them cover on the last two drafts. I’m surprised that people believe what they read literally. People thinking Ireland literally chose who we drafted are just naive.


Let’s see how this plays out now.
 
Some of this is fact and some is speculation. I will make a distinction below one from another.

Facts :
The Saints have always planned on keeping Dennis Allen as Head Coach and that is the plan today. Regardless of how we do in the last two games that’s the plan.

Did Ian Rappaport just randomly decide to tweet about DA’s fate ? No. Someone asked him to do that. It’s to start controlling the narrative. So that 100 “who’s the next head coach “ stories aren’t written by National media.

Carmichael will get replaced but it’s going to have to be someone inside the building or someone w a personal relationship. No rising star w options would want the Saints OC job.

Why would they keep DA ? Like I’ve said before - Why does a GM have a “coaches show” on WWL ? Why is there this push to get him in the HOF ? There is a contingent in that building that believed Sean got too much positive attention , that Sean got all the credit when in reality they believed they built a winning “program” and they created the culture of success. DA accepted the job before Sean resigned. They announced DA’s hiring the night Alvin Kamara was making news for being arrested in Vegas it was done and buried. Hiring DA gives these people complete control. Personnel , staff .. everything and I think they actually believed in what they were doing.

If they moved on from DA and hired someone -who will undoubtedly want control -and they wanted to change things … if that Head Coach had success it would look like the last 17 years and any success was about Sean and Drew.

Gayle … She made a nice deal. That’s it. They bring her out when they need it. She visits with people they want to charm or if there are cameras around.

Me speculating in a highly informed way :

I would expect guys like Mike T , Alvin K to get moved. This would be crazy but even someone like Lattimore to get traded. These guys aren’t bought in and see what’s happening so they could get moved and the narrative becomes this team had legacy problems in the locker room. DA needs his own guys to succeed. Guys that are bought in to him.

They probably go BPA with a lean to Left Tackle in the draft. That narrative is Carr is a top half veteran QB and we can contend and win the Division if we get him help.

I would say they would move on from Taysom as well but he’s a real fan favorite.



I would expect Jeff Ireland to be in Denver next year. The GM in waiting thing was a Sean play and he’s gone now. He won’t be back next year - I’d wager good money on that. That also gives them cover on the last two drafts. I’m surprised that people believe what they read literally. People thinking Ireland literally chose who we drafted are just naive.


Let’s see how this plays out now.
Sean AND Drew deserve the credit. It’s obvious they were the reasons for the Saints success. Loomis is proving nothing but how bad he is at his job. If getting him in the HOF is the goal, this has been an epic fail. Another 8 games of Allen will not help his case (2 this year and 6 next before they have to fire him).
 
Sean AND Drew deserve the credit. It’s obvious they were the reasons for the Saints success. Loomis is proving nothing but how bad he is at his job. If getting him in the HOF is the goal, this has been an epic fail. Another 8 games of Allen will not help his case (2 this year and 6 next before they have to fire him).
Every move he's made since Payton retired has been horrible. It could have actually been worse if they had landed Watson with hindsight now being 20/20.
 
Sean AND Drew deserve the credit. It’s obvious they were the reasons for the Saints success. Loomis is proving nothing but how bad he is at his job. If getting him in the HOF is the goal, this has been an epic fail. Another 8 games of Allen will not help his case (2 this year and 6 next before they have to fire him).
Yeah, Loomis is just proving how much of a simple figurehead he is. Without Sean or Drew, he's just a mealy-mouthed manager.
 
That is truly pathetic. Its gonna go from bad to toxic w/ this fanbase. Once you start winning, you can't ever go back. Just ask LSU fans.
Except... this is the NFL, and everybody goes back. Look at the Patriots - they seemed unconquerable for twenty years in a row, and now they look like the worst-team-on-Tecmo-Bowl Patriots. Their fans don't seem to be abandoning the team, and they have really good reasons to do so (emerging powers in their division, a failed first-round QB, little to be optimistic about on either side of the ball, not a free agent destination).

College is structured differently, with different means of acquiring/retaining talent, and even the pipeline guarantees are vastly different. Future NFL players are subject to a draft.
 
No one in our FO gave Ian the green light to make that statement. His take made little to no sense.
who did then ? And if you know that answer do you think that person was making stuff up or had some basis to say that ?
 
I think if DA losses to Carolina, he is gone. I just don’t see how that could happen and DA stays. So that last game actually has a lot of meaning for the future direction of the Saints.

If we win that one….PC resigns, we get a new OC and go from there.

All guesses
 
DA isn’t safe.
In fact, I think it’s the opposite.
 

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