With the 9th Pick in the 2025 draft, who should the Saints select? (merged) (9 Viewers)

This bias on here because he's a Falcon is absolutely insane.

Bijan was considered as "generational" as any running back to come out in the last 15+ years.

He has literally everything you could want from a RB.

His measurables were everything. His production and play showed differently. He was not a dominate player. He was a dangerous player. Big difference. And that’s exactly how his game has translated to the NFL.
 
How many 5'9 RBs are lead backs on the NFL and how many 5'11 backs are?

Let's see. He's the same size as these guys. Smith and Taylor have 10lbs on him, but the others are the same size.

Barry Sanders 5'8" 203lbs
Emmitt Smith 5'9" 225lbs
Ladanian Tomlinson 5'10" 215lbs
Marshall Faulk 5'10" 211lbs
Jonathan Taylor 5'10" 225
Alvin Kamara 5'10" 215lbs
 
Mykel Williams or Mason Graham

I'd trade back myself.
I agree with trading back. If they stay put, defensive players, at this point in draft evaluation, are more abundant.

A bit later in the draft, at this point in draft evaluation, they can get what they need.

I think that Egbuka is going to rise in the draft but here's what CBS has today.

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it’s being reported that most teams don’t have anywhere near a first round grade for Sanders from Colorado.

Unsurprisingly for anyone who actually watched him play.
I think that he has talent and potential but the lack of offensive line help didn't allow him to show what he has

Because he's unknown and probably, poorly coached, I wouldn't touch him until the third or later
 
I think that he has talent and potential but the lack of offensive line help didn't allow him to show what he has

Because he's unknown and probably, poorly coached, I wouldn't touch him until the third or later

That's not it. I watched quite a few Colorado games. The only time he looked decent was when he was throwing to Travis Hunter, or tucking the ball and scrambling. Outside of that, complete deer in the headlights. He's extremely athletic, as was his father. But he's nowhere near competent college QB level, let alone NFL. I wouldn't touch him at all. Dillion Gabriel right now has draft grades of the 3rd or 4th round and he's easily 5x the QB Sanders ever was, and likely will be. Comparing Sanders to another QB, looks more like comparing him to Terrelle Pryor then anyone else. The only team that was silly enough to draft Pryor was the Raiders.... so looking at Loomis and his recent history I wouldn't be surprised to see him draft Sanders in the 2nd.
 
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That's not it. I watched quite a few Colorado games. The only time he looked decent was when he was throwing to Travis Hunter, or tucking the ball and scrambling. Outside of that, complete deer in the headlights. He's extremely athletic, as was his father. But he's nowhere near competent college QB level, let alone NFL. I wouldn't touch him at all. Dillion Gabriel right now has draft grades of the 3rd or 4th round and he's easily 5x the QB Sanders ever was, and likely will be. Comparing Sanders to another QB, looks more like comparing him to Terrelle Pryor then anyone else. The only team that was silly enough to draft Pryor was the Raiders.... so looking at Loomis and his recent history I wouldn't be surprised to see him draft Sanders in the 2nd.
Are you including 2023? He looked good when he wasn't running for his life.
 
Are you including 2023? He looked good when he wasn't running for his life.

No, he didn't. He looked like trash, often played like trash. Did you not see him struggle against KU and KState? No excuse. Offensive line wasn't great but it wasn't bad either. They were regularly giving him 3 seconds plus in the pocket and he was still struggling to play well against teams stacked with talent that would never make an NFL roster. Sanders is just trash by NFL standards. KU's defense even made Josh Hoover from TCU look all-pro, but Sanders struggled.
 
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We are selecting that Defensive end from Penn state to replace Cam Jordan or we will go get an offensive guard after the turntable we’ve had this year at that position. We can grab a good wr in the 2nd round with Kyren lacy or the kid from ole Miss. after that, I’m looking at LB, Safety, TE, Center, QB (ole Miss qb) ,etc.
 
His measurables were everything. His production and play showed differently. He was not a dominate player. He was a dangerous player. Big difference. And that’s exactly how his game has translated to the NFL.
He's not dominant?

He's 4th in the NFL in rushing yards. On 40 something less carries. 5th in the entire NFL in total yards.

That's pretty much exactly what you want from a RB you draft in the top 10.
 
He's not dominant?

He's 4th in the NFL in rushing yards. On 40 something less carries. 5th in the entire NFL in total yards.

That's pretty much exactly what you want from a RB you draft in the top 10.

He is not a dominate player. Defenses don't put 8 in the box against him often. He's constantly running against 7 man fronts, and he rarely ever takes over the game and carries his offense. He's good, really good. But he's not dominate. Derrek Henry is dominate. Saquon Barkley has been dominate for the Eagles. Robinson is dangerous. And don't throw stats out to manipulate. Josh Jacobs is right there with him and Jacobs isn't talked about as a dominate player much and the packers tend to face more 8 man fronts then the Falcons.

And the reason your stats are trash, is yes, Kyren Williams has 40 more attempts for only 10 or so more yards, but you're not mentioning how many of those extra carries came when the Rams had large leads late in the game, the Rams were trying to run out the clock and the defenses were putting 8 or 9 in the box to get possession back.
 
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After watching him in the bowl game, I'm not so high on him now. I mean, I won't be mad if we pick him, but there are other needs also.
He did have a bad game. AND still had 104 yds rushing. Show me how many other running backs have bad games and still get to the century mark. Not many, I’ll take him and another RB later like Skat or Ollie Gordon III and run every down, our games would take 2 1/2 hours. Until we get our QB we need RBs by committee.
 
I keep finding myself either trading up slightly for TMac or trading back slightly for Warren…. Which probably means we will stay put and take a DB.
 
He did have a bad game. AND still had 104 yds rushing. Show me how many other running backs have bad games and still get to the century mark. Not many, I’ll take him and another RB later like Skat or Ollie Gordon III and run every down, our games would take 2 1/2 hours. Until we get our QB we need RBs by committee.
Keep in mind he rushed 30 times, which is 3 yards per carry. Not very good.

We have AK, Miller and if CEH sticks around and produces, we aren't too bad off in the short term.

That said, 10th pick should be a BPA type pick. If he's on the board and the best option, then fine. We'll see.
 

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