With the 9th Pick in the 2025 draft, who should the Saints select? (merged) (127 Viewers)

[Infoman]

better?

I like where your head is... but you keep throwing fat guys into my playmaker party far too early...

 

[SWJJ]

I like where your head is... but you keep throwing fat guys into my playmaker party far too early...

We need some fat guys too!

 

[Infoman]

We need some fat guys too!

Sure... but just like at the club... they can wait until later on....

 

[webster]

Some of you guys simply don't read what I post... I never said it was "required"....

The whole point I am making is to buck this dumb cliché that you have to keep building your lines with fat guys until you have some sort of impenetrable wall on both sides of the ball, before you ever start taking superstar level talent on offense in the draft with high picks... because "YoU havE To buiLD in Da trenCHES fIRst" - And kill this goofy take that somehow you can't build a team around a superstar RB or that taking one in the top 10 is somehow the dumbest thing ever...

WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT AN INSANE AMOUNT OF DRAFT CAPITAL TO BUILD OUR LINES - It's time for that capital to pay off... Not double down on losses....

Nothing I post is done so in an absolute vacuum - So respond with that in mind and read all posts accordingly.

I am using Gibbs as a direct example of why it's not always a bad thing to take a RB fairly high - As it relates directly to Saints current situation, and with the real possibility that Jeanty is the BPA when we draft this year at 9 overall...

I have conceded that the Lions are in a much different situation than the Saints... It's been established that the Lions also invested less draft capital than the Saints have to build their OLine when they started drafting guys like Gibbs, LaPorta, and Williams - which is when they became a real threat to win a SB

I am not trying to create rules... I am trying to debunk the rules too many here have stuck living in their heads.

Good point.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

I am seeing a good bit of "experts" thinking he falls to the middle of the first. I would not be terribly mad with Jeanty, but to go RB for us with our first pick would not be ideal. DL or Tetairoa McMillan but I think he will be gone way before us. My first want is Abdul Carter but I have a bad feeling the Panthers will snatch him up. Mykel Williams would be a great second option if Carter is gone.

I’d be happy with any of the three you mentioned. Love em all. I worry about us taking Edge as we suck at it, but I think Carter and Williams will be good players in the league.

 

[TruSaint]

I’d be happy with any of the three you mentioned. Love em all. I worry about us taking Edge as we suck at it, but I think Carter and Williams will be good players in the league.

Carter is going to be an absolute force of nature in the league. His bend is elite, he’s explosive, 260 pounds. He’s the real deal.

 

[St. Geezy]

If we can land any of Tet, Jeanty, Graham, Carter ill be happy.

You basically just listed out my draft desires, in perfect order.

Whoever is the highest person on this list or the last man standing at 9 needs to be a Saint.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Carter is going to be an absolute force of nature in the league. His bend is elite, he’s explosive, 260 pounds. He’s the real deal.

I’ve watched every game this season and I totally agree. Just worry he may turn into a pumpkin if we draft him haha.

 

[St. Geezy]

The answer is you draft on your grade and you have to trust your board. But you also have to take into account value. If you think or know that other teams have a lower grade on the player, you wait to take him until you think other teams will take him with their next pick before your pick.

This isn't unique to RBs. But the difference is that there are some positions like RB, Guard, LB, and Safety where you can usually get better value after the 1st round. So, to maximize value, it makes sense to trade down if you can get good value for the trade down. If you can't, you take the player.

But, I guess the counter question to you is if you have a pure Guard, can't move to Tackle and can only play Guard, rated at #9 do you take him?

My answer is the same, you look to trade down for good value.

But, it really all depends on how you grade the player. If you think Jeanty, or any other back, is the next LT, Faulk, Sanders, etc., you take him at #9.

Yes you take him. I think every pick is tradable so I won’t consider that in these discussions. But yes, if you have a guard graded that highly to where he is worth the #9 pick, you do it.

My only point in the exercise though is to demonstrate that it is all about the evaluation of the player. If we pick Jeanty at 9, it is because we have an incredible grade on him. And if we have an incredible grade on him, I am not passing on him because the line needs help.

Get the (potential) generational player now, worry about the supporting cast later. Hell, that supporting cast part for all we know could be handled even PRIOR to the draft.

 

[TribuneUK]

Oh - Is it... Cool... Point still stands... We have invested a shirt ton of draft equity there... Quantifiably more so than the Lions - You're tie breaker not-withstanding... Again, unless said LG can get his fat self into the end zone and score some TDs.... I really DGAF. LOL

Ahhh, I can see you've run out of any valid basis for argument. Again.

 

[SirLoinSaint64]

You have to get Carr someone to throw to or to block for him.

 

[Infoman]

Ahhh, I can see you've run out of any valid basis for argument. Again.

You needed to be tested for reading comprehension disability... The constant - "I don't understand what just happened so I will claim invalid argument" is getting super tiresome... It was cute when it was novel... but now it's just sort of sad...

I provided fact... You claim "tie-breaker" goes to the team that signed a former 1st rounder.... You are close to being fitted for clown shoes on my list of invisible ding dong posters.

 

[DaveXA]

And as we have this discussion…. Gibbs has 3 TDs tonight…. Leads the league in TDs…. Vikes have no answer, and I believe he was picked 12 overall.

I realize the Lions have a bunch of other pieces…. But you can build around that I would think.

They built around Goff, and he's really taken on the leadership role of that offense. Their WR group are solid and LaPorta is a very good TE. Having Gibbs just takes that offense to the next level. He doesn't have to carry the team, but he can and does close these games out.

 

[DaveXA]

Like say a guy that averages 17.5 sacks a year never leaves for another team…. Right?

Trey Hendrickson has entered the chat

He never averaged that when with the Saints, and the team had a decision to make because of the cap situation. But that's been debated ad nauseum since he left. It's water under the bridge and pointless to continue beating that drum.

 

[kwkrnu]

You win games in the trenches. Right now, we're not winning in the trenches. Until that problem is resolved, it's not going to matter how many flashy playmakers you get, you're just going to be paying flashy playmakers to not make plays.

Make the car go first, worry about the fuzzy dice later.