With the 9th Pick in the 2025 draft, who should the Saints select? (merged)

[St. Widge]

See…. Now you just making stuff up…

Yes. But I figured I would break the circle and entertain myself. But I honestly don't find strong running games, big X WRs, or possession TEs that are good at blocking entertaining. I find winning entertaining and I just want the best players we can get at whatever position they play. If that's McMillan, Jeanty, or Warren great draft them. If it's Graham, Carter, Campbell, Banks, or Johnson, then great draft them. But, I suspect that Warren isn't going to be BPA.

 

[Infoman]

Yes. But I figured I would break the circle and entertain myself. But I honestly don't find strong running games, big X WRs, or possession TEs that are good at blocking entertaining. I find winning entertaining and I just want the best players we can get at whatever position they play. If that's McMillan, Jeanty, or Warren great draft them. If it's Graham, Carter, Campbell, Banks, or Johnson, then great draft them. But, I suspect that Warren isn't going to be BPA.

I suspect if we draft another fat guy or DB in round 1 or 2…. We will score about the same amount of points as we did this year… next year.

Just the same guess I had last year…. Turns out I’m a good guesser.

 

[St. Widge]

I suspect if we draft another fat guy or DB in round 1 or 2…. We will score about the same amount of points as we did this year… next year.

Just the same guess I had last year…. Turns out I’m a good guesser.

I doubt it. I would expect more health for most of the team including the OL, Carr (if they don't go with Rattler), Olave, Shaheed, Kamra, Miller, and Taysom. That alone should lead to more scoring and hopefully we get a better OC that is not so conservative.

 

[Infoman]

I doubt it. I would expect more health for most of the team including the OL, Carr (if they don't go with Rattler), Olave, Shaheed, Kamra, Miller, and Taysom. That alone should lead to more scoring and hopefully we get a better OC that is not so conservative.

You just named the all injured or regularly unavailable or should probably retire all star team….

 

[St. Widge]

I suspect if we draft another fat guy or DB in round 1 or 2…. We will score about the same amount of points as we did this year… next year.

Just the same guess I had last year…. Turns out I’m a good guesser.

And, honestly, if we don't change the scheme to a more aggressive, pass oriented scheme, it's not going to be more exciting no matter who we draft in the first round.

 

[Pkessling]

Don't disagree necessarily, but more often than not, they're drafted late first round or in the second round. Barkley is the only one who went super high.

*Derrick - drafted 2nd round

2nd round

2nd round

2nd overall

First round - 24th overall

And all running behind the best O Lines in the league.

 

[DSnfla]

I think Jeanty is a bit of a reach @ 9.
Our 2 biggest needs are 1, a big X WR that makes the contested catch. And 1a, a run stuffing DT that can push the pocket and free up Bresse to unleash his potential.

Our RB situation is not a big need, AK has at least 2 more yrs at the level he played last yr and if we can keep Miller healthy he has shown very good flashes. Maybe CEH can contribute and there are very good RBs available later

For those wanting Warren, yeah i want him as well but no way @#9

BPA is a myth. It's BPA at a position of need and has been for decades
I think Adebo comes back and with a yr of nothing but playing on the outside Taylor will be fine. Add in another yr of McKinstry improving CB is not a great need so I wouldn't take Johnson

 

[Infoman]

And, honestly, if we don't change the scheme to a more aggressive, pass oriented scheme, it's not going to be more exciting no matter who we draft in the first round.

Common ground there sir…. I’d like to hedge that bet with a guy or 2 that can put 6s on the board….

 

[St. Widge]

I think Jeanty is a bit of a reach @ 9.
Our 2 biggest needs are 1, a big X WR that makes the contested catch. And 1a, a run stuffing DT that can push the pocket and free up Bresse to unleash his potential.

Our RB situation is not a big need, AK has at least 2 more yrs at the level he played last yr and if we can keep Miller healthy he has shown very good flashes. Maybe CEH can contribute and there are very good RBs available later

For those wanting Warren, yeah i want him as well but no way @#9

BPA is a myth. It's BPA at a position of need and has been for decades
I think Adebo comes back and with a yr of nothing but playing on the outside Taylor will be fine. Add in another yr of McKinstry improving CB is not a great need so I wouldn't take Johnson

While BPA may be a myth, this team has so many needs, I'm not sure any position isn't a position of need. We have some good players, but I don't think there is a position where we don't need an upgrade and several where we really need a starter. In which case, BPA makes sense for this team.

 

[DSnfla]

Widge…. We gonna keep going in circles on this…. I think Warren is worth that pick too. I said last year that Bowers was also worth a top 10 pick…. He was. Warren is a different type of TE, but has a higher ceiling than Bowers because of his athleticism, size, and versatility. Bowers was more polished.

Reach and Value are terms for the draftniks that have to eat their words yearly.

Our current playmakers are old, getting old, injured, or injury prone. Doing nothing to immediately address that this year after spending a decade investigating in OL and DL primarily in round 1…. Is asking to be out scored, or lose one score games.

Also…. Again…. I like points…. And Football is entertainment.

Football is COMPETITION you want entertainment watch a movie. You would rather lose a game 44-47 than win a game 17-13

 

[DSnfla]

While BPA may be a myth, this team has so many needs, I'm not sure any position isn't a position of need. We have some good players, but I don't think there is a position where we don't need an upgrade and several where we really need a starter. In which case, BPA makes sense for this team.

Sure we could use an upgrade at almost every position but there's a want to upgrade and a NEED to upgrade. We NEED to upgrade the DL , we NEED to upgrade the X WR. I think RB , CB are much more of wants. Passing on a need because a want has a bit of a better grade just makes it take longer for us to become a contender

 

[nakadish]

I suspect if we draft another fat guy or DB in round 1 or 2…. We will score about the same amount of points as we did this year… next year.

Just the same guess I had last year…. Turns out I’m a good guesser.

This is how I look at it. Let's set we had Graham, or Will Johnson, or Carter on this year's team. Would the Saints have won more games? Maybe. It would have at least been more interesting.

Now let's say that the Saints had Tet or Jeanty this year. Would the Saints have won more games? Almost certainly.

It's not just BPA. Its which player helps you win the most given what's there. I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone on defense does that, at least in the short-term, in the first round. After the first round is a different story.

Yes, the defense is old and needs upgrading everywhere. But it's not the total embarrassment that the offense is either.

 

[Infoman]

This is how I look at it. Let's set we had Graham, or Will Johnson, or Carter on this year's team. Would the Saints have won more games? Maybe. It would have at least been more interesting.

Now let's say that the Saints had Tet or Jeanty this year. Would the Saints have won more games? Almost certainly.

It's not just BPA. Its which player helps you win the most given what's there. I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone on defense does that, at least in the short-term, in the first round. After the first round is a different story.

Yes, the defense is old and needs upgrading everywhere. But it's not the total embarrassment that the offense is either.

Thank you

 

[nakadish]

I think Jeanty is a bit of a reach @ 9.
Our 2 biggest needs are 1, a big X WR that makes the contested catch. And 1a, a run stuffing DT that can push the pocket and free up Bresse to unleash his potential.

Our RB situation is not a big need, AK has at least 2 more yrs at the level he played last yr and if we can keep Miller healthy he has shown very good flashes. Maybe CEH can contribute and there are very good RBs available later

For those wanting Warren, yeah i want him as well but no way @#9

BPA is a myth. It's BPA at a position of need and has been for decades
I think Adebo comes back and with a yr of nothing but playing on the outside Taylor will be fine. Add in another yr of McKinstry improving CB is not a great need so I wouldn't take Johnson

After 2 years, you should stop with "if Miller can stay healthy". You better be planning on him NOT being healthy. And I don't think you can rely on 30 year old Kamara to be healthy all year, either. Then who are you left relying on? Mimms? That's a loss waiting to happen.