Saints players and other key sports and public figures are angry at Drew Brees for his anthem comments (1 Viewer)

[SaintNeutron]

the democrat way

This isn’t a red, blue issue man, this is a humanity issue. Wake up, man

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Drew Brees is a good man. Maybe doesn't really get all the nuances about the currents scenario that's playing out here but to disparage the mans character because you don't agree with his stance on kneeling during the anthem is small minded. I personally disagree with him on this issue.

Maybe you should take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself how flawless you are. Be as brutally judgmental about yourself as you are about others. Unless of course you're a completely flawless human being in which case you should be sure let us know so we can all worship at your feet.

Like I said Drew is a good man. Not above being questioned or criticized but definitely not deserving of some of the utter crap some people are spewing.

i am flawed
we all are
that's why we need others to help us recognize and correct our flaws
hopefully drew lets Jenkins and DD help him correct his flaws

 

[Swankopotomous]

How you think a guy wanting to stand for the national anthem IS about racism is fascinating to me.

No one cares about Drew Brees standing during the national anthem. People are much more concerned with the rationale he uses to, essentially, denigrate those who protest via kneeling.

He's either obtuse or self-serving...and I'm leaning toward the latter.

 

[pierce2poydras]

i am flawed
we all are
that's why we need others to help us recognize and correct our flaws
hopefully drew lets Jenkins and DD help him correct his flaws

Hopefully they give him the opportunity to do so. I get worried about this stuff all the time. I’ve gone through a great number of personal changes in belief and ideology over the past decade. I never would’ve been able to make those changes had I not had a sufficient support system which allowed me to do so, and even encouraged it.

I think some people are very headstrong, and even when their heart is (or wants to be) in the right place it takes a WHOLE LOT to enact a deep personal change in things that are deeply engrained in their personality or beliefs, even subconsciously. Drew is obviously not impervious to criticism, no one should be. But I worry that those headstrong individuals may be less prone to make those changes when faced with a perceived attack rather than others wanting to help them change for the better.

Obviously it’s not on the shoulders of others to help you change, but it sure did help me. I hope that both sides can be open to talking this out and working through it.

 

[syracuse saint]

Wow, just when i thought that i couldn't respect Marques Colston any more than i already did, he eloquently explained to Drew what he doesn't seem to be hearing. It makes me sad to see Marques say "had" respect for Drew. I am pretty sure that was no accident.

I hope that these relationships can be repaired somehow.

 

[sss1]

No one cares about Drew Brees standing during the national anthem. People are much more concerned with the rationale he uses to, essentially, denigrate those who protest via kneeling.

He's either obtuse or self-serving...and I'm leaning toward the latter.

+1 This (OUR) country needs a leader at this critical moment. Not 100% sure it's Biden, but I'm 100% sure it's NOT the ALIENATING 6 year old that currently occupies the office!

 

[boutte]

Disappointed in you Drew. We'll see how hard these players play for a closet racist.

You've always been one of the worst posters on this board and this is just another example why no one should ever take anything you say seriously.

 

[lades]

This isn’t a red, blue issue man, this is a humanity issue. Wake up, man

"democratic" not "Democratic" Wake up, man.

 

[No2DC]

 

[Krodwhodat]

I appreciate the response and I understand. And while their intent is to not disrespect the national anthem or the flag it’s still something I’d rather not do to show my support for black lives matter. It’s not because I don’t care or that I won’t stand it’s unity, it’s because I wore the uniform and for me both have special meanings that I hope are respected in the same way. I think that we as a society or fans are putting the spotlight on a symbol rather than the actual issue at hand. What I am trying to say is show me that you are making change. Show me where your heart is. Show me you aren’t kneeling because it’s cool or because you are scared of backlash. There are many of black and white Americans all over this country that are speaking out on their computers, blacking out their screens, hashtag this and that. When they turn off their computer or phone the thought of actually doing something never crossed their minds. I promise you there are many white and even some black football players that have knelt down for the anthem and haven’t done sheet for the actual cause. They are just more worried about their fans, image and next contract than civil rights. Let’s look at the deeds, look at what they have done in their lives to further the cause. Yes Brees may not have a list of African American specific things he has done but what he does do has a non racial or biased intent to it. He works to bring young kids of all race together with his flag football, he builds play grounds for poor communities and for handicap children. He is helping feed the poor and needy during Covid. Plus I’m sure tons more that we don’t know about. I know some but I won’t get into it here. Regardless if he didn’t say what you or MT or anyone else wanted to hear that’s fine and you can be angry but don’t mistake what he says as his actions because he is a better man than I am. So if kneeling during the anthem is all you are looking forI’m not sure you or anyone else understand what the protest is for. Its for action not show and Brees is always about action.

edit- guys I want to edit this post as it correctly was pointed out to that I made a comment about black players kneeling and not doing anything for the cause. I was talking in reference to a broader sense of service as it what Brees does in general and not talking about stopping police brutality. Of course black Americans can’t do anything about the brutality and it was a terrible miss on my part to not reread my post before I submitted it. This entire kneeling protest as well as the other things happening right now directly relate to police brutality and I don’t want to take away from that specific focus by tackling multiple issues.

edit- guys I want to edit this post as it correctly was pointed out to that I made a comment about black players kneeling and not doing anything for the cause. I was talking in reference to a broader sense of service as it what Brees does in general and not talking about stopping police brutality. Of course black Americans can’t do anything about the brutality and it was a terrible miss on my part to not reread my post before I submitted it. This entire kneeling protest as well as the other things happening right now directly relate to police brutality and I don’t want to take away from that specific focus by tackling multiple issues.

 

[nolaspe]

Another vid by MJ (language)... methinks the damage b/w them may be irreparable by what MJ said at the end... (and to those that didn't see an earlier post from me, Drew and MJ spoke before he posted these vids)

 

[abnrgr]

I think I’ve read the responses from the Saints players (I respect each one). Some are fiery (Jenkins), some are patient (Davenport/Jordan), some are wise (Davis) and some sting (Colston). IMO they all reflect the man’s personality. However you have to be sobered by Colston. I really love these guys and if Colston said that to me I would really need to search my soul. Now is the time to love thy neighbor and be a true saint. No greater love than to lay down ones life for a friend. Maybe time to lay down some ideals like kneeling for the sake of a people who are desperately crying out for help.

 

[syracuse saint]

+1 This (OUR) country needs a leader at this critical moment. Not 100% sure it's Biden, but I'm 100% sure it's NOT the ALIENATING 6 year old that currently occupies the office!

Come on man! This is the kind of stuff that kills positive dialogue. This isn't about one leader. While strong leadership in the White House helps the cause, this is institutional and internal. The leadership comes from looking yourself in the mirror (not you personally, figure of speech) and asking yourself what you could do to understand better.

Rise above the politics, because history has shown that if we wait on politicians to repair this broken part of our country, then we will be having the same conversation in 200 years.

With all due respect, take this nonsense somewhere else.

 

[Slaw]

Serious question, why do people consider it disrespectful to kneel during the anthem? Kaep said it was actually an ex marines idea to kneel because it’s peaceful. Can you still kneel and love America? Once again this question is genuine curiosity, anyone who turns this into an argument other than a polite discussion to answer my question will just be ignored.

This SHOULD be a silly question. What's sad is that it's not. Why must children say Mr/Mrs? Why are some words "bad"? I think humans just love to be offended. I don't think any words are bad. I don't care if a child of any age just calls me by my name. And I don't care if someone kneels during the anthem, during a rock show, or at 12:00 on New Year's. None of that should offend anyone. Yet, here we are...

 

[St.Freethinker]

Sheople! The dude finds it offensive/disrespectful to kneel during the anthem. WHAT'S SO FRICKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS? It's not like he said he is against the message, just the act.

Yes, its not about the military or veterans to those kneeling, but to Drew the anthem is about paying respect to those.

Did kneeling stop police brutality? Did it change anything? NOPE!