Was Loomis Taken out of Context By His Remarks (Comparing DA to Coaching Greats)

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DerrickB said:
When he compared DA having similar starts in his first two seasons as a coach compared to Chuck Knoll, Bill Walsh, Belichick, and Tom Landry, I don't think he meant that Allen would have a similar rise.

It was more of saying what can happen when teams are patient with their HCs when they are first starting.

I have seen a lot of people on Saints Twitter, Saints FB Groups, podcasts, and even the local media that were not too pleased by what ML said.

Thoughts?
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You are correct. But expecting that kind of comprehension from people given to emotional outbursts is likely a futile effort.
 
Allen inherited a team that had an extremely strong core and a good set of talent. This year he only won because of the disaster of teams he played.

Landry took over an expansion team and built it from nothing. The Steelers were in a bad place when Noll took over as coach. The patriots were built by Parcells and Pete Carroll. Belichick got lucky with Brady, and had to clean up the ship after they got in bad habits under Carroll, but the core of the Super Bowl talent was already there what great things did Belichick do in Cleveland?

None of the three took a team nearly off the playoffs and got worse, then beat a bunch of high school teams to finally eek out a winning record
 
It was ridiculous… and Loomis cherry-picked his stats to support his argument.

He left out Bill Walsh’s 3rd year where he killed it… he left out BB’s time head coaching Cleveland… and he conveniently left out the disaster that was Dennis Allen with the Raiders.
 
Loomis has terrible public relations skills. There's a way to be emphatic with the fans without being arrogant and there is way to say we believe in the coach without comparing him to HOF coaches he will never rea h that tier. The level detachment he exhibits is astonishing.
 
meily said:
DA inherited a team in transition. DA was 9-8 this year not 4-13, putting the focus solely on the coach and not the dynamics in which the team is struggling is short sighted and I understand the frustration because he is the HC so he gets the blame (unfair blame at times) but when he immediately starts transitioning and implementing the change we want to see how is HE still the problem?

I do not even think this is a DA thing anymore, I think ANY coach that would of taken over for CSP would be feeling this heat because he is proceeding CSP and we as fans can be irrational at times.
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I really wish y’all would stop throwing that 9-8 crap around like it was a blessing and come down to reality that we had the easiest schedule in NFL history and should of won at minimum 3 more games!
 
DerrickB said:
When he compared DA having similar starts in his first two seasons as a coach compared to Chuck Knoll, Bill Walsh, Belichick, and Tom Landry, I don't think he meant that Allen would have a similar rise.

It was more of saying what can happen when teams are patient with their HCs when they are first starting.

I have seen a lot of people on Saints Twitter, Saints FB Groups, podcasts, and even the local media that were not too pleased by what ML said.

Thoughts?
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Chuck Knoll, Bill Walsh, Belichick, and Tom Landry,
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Every time he would compare Allen ........to Chuck Knoll, Bill Walsh, Belicheck and Tom Landry. It just shows what a dinosaur general manager he is. Loomis is (Göbekli Tepe) old.

Every time he gives a press conference, he trots out some tired football cliche's and platitudes from the 70s. That just dates him, and his football philosophy. The chewing gum and smacking, was as creepy as anything I have ever seen in a Saints press conference. If any executive, did that at any other $4 billion company. You would be demoted or fired. This is the bad judgement I speak of.
 
meily said:
DA inherited a team in transition. DA was 9-8 this year not 4-13, putting the focus solely on the coach and not the dynamics in which the team is struggling is short sighted and I understand the frustration because he is the HC so he gets the blame (unfair blame at times) but when he immediately starts transitioning and implementing the change we want to see how is HE still the problem?

I do not even think this is a DA thing anymore, I think ANY coach that would of taken over for CSP would be feeling this heat because he is proceeding CSP and we as fans can be irrational at times.
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DA would have to go undefeated the next 2 seasons.....just to be above .500 as a HC.

DA Allen has the worst W/L record of any active head coach in the NFL.

DA is has the 17th worst W/L record........all time.

But, DA is #1 among Saints Report historical revisionist.
 
St4ever said:
I really wish y’all would stop throwing that 9-8 crap around like it was a blessing and come down to reality that we had the easiest schedule in NFL history and should of won at minimum 3 more games!
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It's hard to win football games in the NFL (says a man named Dennis Allen!) and yet we did it NINE times! :sneaky:
 
No2DC said:
Loomis has terrible public relations skills. There's a way to be emphatic with the fans without being arrogant and there is way to say we believe in the coach without comparing him to HOF coaches he will never rea h that tier. The level detachment he exhibits is astonishing.
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Very condescending, like he is all knowing. Just like he is when he makes great trades. Davenport(2 ones), Penning(one-Jalen Carter and a two). Payton, cgj. He always get fleeced on his smug face.
 
Saints FO depends on fans with short memories that think with their hearts. Mickey and DA's performance has been nothing short of a dumpster fire. Mickey's decline is accelerating. That's MHO.
 

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