Dennis Allen confirms that Mickey Loomis was not in favor of firing him after Panthers loss (1 Viewer)

[Big_L]

No one feels sorry for Dennis; this was his second chance to prove himself after being given almost three years with two different teams. Two coaches just got fired this year after just one year. Don't let the door hit you . . .

Well, those two coaches share something Dennis doesn't.

 

[texasjefe]

Dennis screwed the pooch early. He went from the 9-0 win in Tampa in '21 and the iconic photo of Chauncey with arms-folded in Brady's face -- to training camp just 8 months later when he and Mickey alienated our team and fans' spirit animal right out the door. I think money was involved and we know there aint enough of that around in King Mickey's palace of debt.

Then there was the optimism of Winston returning from injury when that house of cards fell immediately and we suddenly only had washed journeyman backup Andy Dalton at QB.

I think it was the road game at the Steelers when I concluded Dennis was a fail at HC. The team was non-existent emotionally all game long.

Any debate on when was it right for Dennis to be fired - the answer is he could've been fired after one season.

 

[dvdman]

Shout out to DA. He was a darn good defensive coordinator.

Unfortunately he wasn’t even that at the bitter end. The defense was falling apart along with the rest of the team. Rizzi did his best but ultimately I believe the players believed he was still part of the Allen cultures

 

[kcirdor]

This isn't really that serious. It's fans talking about grown men playing a game. It's supposed to be entertainment.

Anway, sure Loomis has one final chance to hire the right coach and rebuild the team. If he misses, he is gone. And frankly, at his age, he's likely gone in a few years even if he hits on the right coach. I'm not all that confident that he is going to get it right, but he does at least seem to be going through the right process this time.

At his age he should have retired years ago... so I don't get the whole "he's going to retire soon". Why retire when you have carte blanche?

 

[Domeination]

Lol

Oh, but he can if Gayle lets him remain in place.

 

[SuperSaint]

It accomplished something...it got DA which was a cancer to the organization away from the organization. He lost the players, and there was no point in keeping him once that happened.

Crazy part was that the players actually thought that at the end of LAST season that DA was getting fired.

I agree that DA was a cancer and had lost the locker room, but if he had stayed, the defense might not have imploded, and we might have a better draft position.

 

[los226]

I believe Loomis would’ve brought DA back for his final year of contract. That way he would’ve never had to fire him.

 

[Covington Saint]

i believe people are making way too much of comments made by mickey about dennis allen. mickey is not wrong about anything he's said about the dennis allen situation. Many of you are fools to not take the actual team to task for quitting during the year. None of this take means dennis allen should not have been fired later in the season in a more respectable manner or anything. Rizzi was always fools gold. Our injury situations are not dennis' fault and have absolutely crushed his tenure here.

 

[St. Geezy]

i believe people are making way too much of comments made by mickey about dennis allen. mickey is not wrong about anything he's said about the dennis allen situation. Many of you are fools to not take the actual team to task for quitting during the year. None of this take means dennis allen should not have been fired later in the season in a more respectable manner or anything. Rizzi was always fools gold. Our injury situations are not dennis' fault and have absolutely crushed his tenure here.

Yeah I don't think DA was cut out to be a HC, but I definitely must admit that the guy was dealt a crappy hand, and that pretty much nixed any small chance he had of breaking through despite his limitations as a coach.

 

[Broad St. Saint]

Yeah I don't think DA was cut out to be a HC, but I definitely must admit that the guy was dealt a crappy hand, and that pretty much nixed any small chance he had of breaking through despite his limitations as a coach.

Dennis Allen inherited a Saints team coming off 5 straight winning seasons.

Virtually no new coach steps into such a position. That's a pretty good hand! The only better situation I could envision in today's NFL involves either Andy Reid's health making him retire, or the Steelers (idiotically IMHO) firing Mike Tomlin. Bowles with the Bucs stepping in for Arians after the latter retired is the only similar new coach situation recently I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

Dennis Allen inherited a Saints team coming off 5 straight winning seasons.

Playing in one of the softest divisions in NFL history over 3 straight years.

 

[St. Geezy]

Dennis Allen inherited a Saints team coming off 5 straight winning seasons.

Virtually no new coach steps into such a position. That's a pretty good hand! The only better situation I could envision in today's NFL involves either Andy Reid's health making him retire, or the Steelers (idiotically IMHO) firing Mike Tomlin. Bowles with the Bucs stepping in for Arians after the latter retired is the only similar new coach situation recently I can think of off the top of my head.

I was speaking specifically regarding the ridiculous number of injuries and lack of QB, referenced in the post I quoted.

 

[Covington Saint]

Dennis Allen inherited a Saints team coming off 5 straight winning seasons.

Virtually no new coach steps into such a position. That's a pretty good hand! The only better situation I could envision in today's NFL involves either Andy Reid's health making him retire, or the Steelers (idiotically IMHO) firing Mike Tomlin. Bowles with the Bucs stepping in for Arians after the latter retired is the only similar new coach situation recently I can think of off the top of my head.

so nothing at all to do with the aging roster and cap situation and this minor issue of replacing drew brees that payton hit the eject button on... Dennis has done pretty well when he had a healthy squad. but dennis is a coach that needs an ideal situation and isn't alpha enough to command an organization when things get rough.

 

[St. Widge]

At his age he should have retired years ago... so I don't get the whole "he's going to retire soon". Why retire when you have carte blanche?

Because at some point, everyone wants to retire and scale back the stress and obligations. Travel, enjoy his grandkids, yell at other peoples' grandkids that are on his lawn, tell people to stay off his "propity", eat icecream and red wine for dinner, not get yelled at by fans, not have to read stuff from fans about how worthless he is, etc.

Many are already retired by his age and certainly by 71 or 72. And those that aren't retired usually have really scaled back on their job duties and don't work full time.

Maybe Loomis is the exception, but I doubt it. I've know many old men that had carte blanche in their business and still retired. At some point everyone gets too tired of dealing with other people's crap.