I want no part of Aaron Glenn as a HC (1 Viewer)

[SonOfNOLA]

 

[44slayer]

Underhill doing what he does best. Mickeymegaphone.

Dan Quinn had led a pathetic franchise to the SB. He won a SB in Seattle as DC. His resume is well more established to withstand 1 game than Glenn.

Glenns Defense rankings, yards

Be objective with this. Glenn in 4 years has never really been close to having an upper half defense. Compare him against Dennis Allen, and even that boat anchor deserved his shot at HC more.

2024 - 20th
2023 - 19th
2022- 32nd
2021 - 29th

Are those honestly the defensive rankings you want to see when you hire a DC as a HC? If any of you supporting Glenn for this job were given those rankings without a name, youd skip right past them.

Thats why 1 playoff game giving up 45 matters a bit more than Dan Quinn. Its a SUPER short sighted response by Underhill. Par for the course.

 

[DavidM]

I was underwhelmed with Glenn when he was a position coach here and he hasn’t been a standout as the DC in Detroit.

Hiring him would feel too much like both an extenuation of the Allen era and yet a downgrade defensively.

I have said I recognize that he might possess traits and qualities that are putting attention on him as a head coaching candidate, but I have concerns about him in other areas of coaching. I’ll support him if he gets the job but he’s one of the candidates I’m least excited about. I’d prefer the team move in a new direction and hiring an Allen assistant wouldn’t feel like that at all.

 

[Saint Greg]

I would’ve passed on Quinn because I don’t believe in hiring a DC as HC and you’re seeing why. He might lose his OC already. But Quinn is a much better DC than Glenn and he’s here because he fell arse backward into a franchise QB.

 

[greatshow25]

I was going to say the same thing. Quinn and the Cowboys got ran off the field last year and people said the same thing about him yet he has led the team to the NFC championship game.

 

[Rouxble]

I would’ve passed on Quinn because I don’t believe in hiring a DC as HC and you’re seeing why. He might lose his OC already. But Quinn is a much better DC than Glenn and he’s here because he fell arse backward into a franchise QB.

Losing an OC is overrated on this board. It’s not ideal, but it’s not the death of the offense if it happens, particularly if you have a head coach and FO with a plan. If you are changing systems every year, that’s a different kind of problem (also known as having no plan). As an example, DA had no real vision for the offense.

2022: keep the same OC for system continuity

2023: sign Carr because he allegedly fits the system better than Dalton

2024: change the system that Carr is allegedly best in because Allen’s seat is getting warm (despite finishing 5th in points and 10th in yards down the stretch after moving Peat to LT)

Even if the HC calls plays on Sunday, he isn’t doing all the work of an OC. Brees spent more time with Carmichael during the week than he did with Payton because Payton’s main job was managing the team, not sitting in the QB room all day. Payton hasn’t been able to field a top ten offense in the last three seasons coached because offensive output is more a function of talent than coaching. Better players (see Detroit) will make scoring points easier.

Both Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have had multiple OC’s, but they are lighting up the scoreboard week after week. Nobody laments how changing OC’s has failed them.

 

[Rouxble]

Nick is reading my posts with his morning coffee.

 

[SystemShock]

It's still only on half of football where his offense has turned the ball over 3 times, including a pick 6. I don't even really like Glenn's defense and he's not my choice for HC, but it is an overreaction to call Glenn's defense trash based on one half of football when compared to his career as a DC.

So you are in agreement in principle; they are just using more colorful language than you.

 

[DerrickB]

I asked Matt Mascona if he thought that the front office would consider the fans opinion about this coaching search. He said. “Not even for a second”. I hope he’s right.

Foolish if they did.

 

[Domeination]

I’m leaning more towards Brady now. I see too much DA in Glenn.

 

[44slayer]

overreaction to call Glenn's defense trash based on one half of football when compared to his career as a DC.

Glenns entire career as a DC, rankings

20, 19, 29 and 32.

Never even had an upper half defense.

Choose your narratives wisely.

 

[blackadder]

Glenns entire career as a DC, rankings

20, 19, 29 and 32.

Never even had an upper half defense.

Choose your narratives wisely.

After a couple of seasons with the prior coaches players, that was what Jim Haslett looked like. His defenses got progressively worse and he bailed to become a HC before he was exposed. Then after leaving the Saints his defenses were always bottom dwellers.

 

[DerrickB]

This thread shows how catastrophic the DA experience was for some people.

 

[St4ever]

The bad thing is if Glenn does not get a HC position Detroit my let him go for poor performance anyway.