Al qaeda is happy too! (4 Viewers)

[Taurus]

No, let's dismiss Al-Qaeda's threats as mere rhetoric, demagoguery and scare tactics being used by an ousted lame duck American political party.

Ignore them and they'll go away!

Consider the source, indeed.

YES! Jeebus H. Christ on His nuclear-powered pogo-stick, yes! Screw them and everything they say. Ignore it and move on with strategies designed to forward American interests. AQ can go **** itself.

WTH...was anybody in '42 actually listening to Tokyo Rose? Were the Reps and Dems pointing at each other saying "Well, Rosie wants you guys to win!" "Oh yeah? Well, yesterday she was crowing about how great your policies are..for Japan!"

Great Googly-Moogly...there should be a word past "gullible" so I could use it here.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Wait, are we giving credence to Al Qaeda's messages now?

You can play this game so many ways:

a. They're saying they're happy b/c they really believe that Democratic policies will strengthen their position.

b. They're saying they're happy b/c they want to rile up American voters, politicians, etc., to make us "stay the course" just to spite them, and therefore increase their recruiting pool.

c. They're saying they're happy b/c they merely want to claim victory to boost their street cred.


Answer: Who cares?

The focus shouldn't be on what Al Qaeda believes is best for them, it should be on what is actually best for us. Al Qaeda might believe that Democratic policies might be best for them, but that doesn't mean they actually are... remember, these are the same guys who think crashing airplanes into buildings is a good time.

FWIW -- I really don't think the Democrats have a plan to defeat Al Qaeda or stabilize Iraq... but since I don't think the Republicans did either, I'm not in mourning.

There are a few pragmatists within each party who could probably put together a coherent strategy to win, but I'm not optimistic they'll emerge into a position of power anytime soon.

 

[tomwaits]

So you actually think Spicolli just wanted to point out that the "enemy" has celebrated the election of Democrats?

Huh.

What about the "Thank you America" Comment?

No, he wasn't just stating a fact.

Its not hard to figure this out.

He was stating that the terrorists are happy about the Democrats winning the election because they think the Democrats will not push the war option as much as the Republicans do. Does this mean the Democrats are pro-terrorist? I don't think it does, it just means that they will handle it differently, and with less violence and war. The Democrats have a different cost/benefit analysis of the war. It does not make them pro-terrorist though.

I don't think we can wipe out all of the terrorists with war, and I also don't think we can U.N. resolution them to happiness. They are just going to exist and be mad, and you have to deal with it the best you can, but I don't have the answers how to do it.

 

[CT Saints Fan]

So you actually think Spicolli just wanted to point out that the "enemy" has celebrated the election of Democrats?

Huh.

What about the "Thank you America" Comment?

No, he wasn't just stating a fact.

How much more proof do you want?

 

[gavinj]

Terrorists don't hate our freedom, they hate our culture influencing their culture. They see Americans as heathens and they think if their culture is Americanized, they will become ungodly heathens also.

Well, if that's the case, then they DEFINITELY lost a big one on Tuesday. Hahaa. I'm not saying that Democrats are more likely to be ungodly heath... Oh yeah, I guess I am. lol.

 

[Jacob]

Very wise and obvious assessment.

We will, indeed, get what we deserve.

Bill Jefferson received 30% of the vote.

I rest my case.

Joe

Yep, it's New Orleans' fault.

 

[tomwaits]

Well, if that's the case, then they DEFINITELY lost a big one on Tuesday. Hahaa. I'm not saying that Democrats are more likely to be ungodly heath... Oh yeah, I guess I am. lol.

Its not that they care so much that we are heathens, they just don't want it spread to their land.

 

[DadsDream]

Hammer meet nail. Very eloquently put st dude. My sentiments exactly.

Very eloquent with improper verb useage? :mdr168:

 

[RebSaint]

Its not hard to figure this out.

He was stating that the terrorists are happy about the Democrats winning the election because they think the Democrats will not push the war option as much as the Republicans do. Does this mean the Democrats are pro-terrorist? I don't think it does, it just means that they will handle it differently, and with less violence and war. The Democrats have a different cost/benefit analysis of the war. It does not make them pro-terrorist though.

I don't think we can wipe out all of the terrorists with war, and I also don't think we can U.N. resolution them to happiness. They are just going to exist and be mad, and you have to deal with it the best you can, but I don't have the answers how to do it.

It isn't hard to figure out. Your reading way too much into the initial post.

I think it was simple.

I think it was just a troll post to get people who were rather pleased with the election all riled up.

"Thank you America."

No, the post wasn't explaining the nuances of what's going on in the terrorists' minds, or the fact that the Democrats might take a more "peaceful" route. That would have actually taken thought, explanation, and foresight.

It was simple, mindless, partisan pop-shot a few days removed from the election.

Nothing more, nothing less.

It's the kind of meaningless political garbage that comes from both sides who claim to have simply a D or R next to their name.

It's how I read it.

 

[blackadder]

Worst war ever.

The sunnis hate us. The shiites hate us. 150k iraqis have been killed. Iraq is in a downward spiral of a civil war. Al Quaida hated the secular Sadam, now they are using him and the war as a recruiting poster. For every terrorist we kill, our unpopular war creates five more. We helped sink Tony Blair, our most impt ally. The tab is up to what, two hundred billion? We have no reasonable exit strategy, even most of us against the war from the start know we cant up and leave. We have lost crediblity with strategic allies. A Shiite Iraq is closer to a Shiite Iran than ever, Iran being the more dangerous foe. The war distracts our leaders from impt domestic issues. Oh yes, most importantly we lose young Amercian lives every day while scores of others come home horribly injured.


Okay, its probably not as bad as Vietnam. Its just that after Vietnam one would think we should know better.

The thread topic infers that those who voted for change(this election mostly was a referendum on the war) are playing into Al Quada hands. It also infers that those of us against the war are weak on terror and sympathize with Al Quada.

Its just an extension of the mentality that got us into the war in the first place. Its transparent and tiresome. We had many congressmen voting for the war for fear of being labeled Al Quada apologists or for being soft on terror. Sadam and Al Quada were never aligned and there never was any Iraq/ 9-11 connection just as there never were WMDs.

Worst war ever. Lets get out of the pointing fingers at who started it phase. Lets get out of the trying to justify it phase. Lets stop pretending the Iraqis are better off. Lets get the Republicans and Democrats to work on a bipartisan solution to get our soldiers home as soon as possible without abandoning the brave Iraqis who supported us over there.

Direct expenditures so far are around $400 billion. Reasonable estimates (one by nobel prize winnning Joseph Stiglitz) forecast $2 trillion in outlays when all is said and done. That estimate factors in all long term associated costs, such as health care for disabled veterans, that are ususally left out of government accounting.

In the best case scenario, that is money that would have stayed in the taxpayer's pocket. If the government simply had to appropriate that money it would have been better spent retiring debt or investing in infrastructure, which generates follow on economic returns.

 

[gavinj]

Its not that they care so much that we are heathens, they just don't want it spread to their land.

Too bad for them. When we don't pwn you with guns and bombs, we will pwn you with badly dubbed videos of Sean Penn and George Clooney movies.

 

[DadsDream]

That's right. Everybody ignore what Al-Qaeda is saying and focus instead on a one-line retort at the end of the post.

Very nice. Ignore the terrorist saying he's going to blow up the White House and focus on attacking the poster.

Good grief.

Hope you remembered to purge the crawfish.

 

[saintfan-n-alex]

I disagree. The thread topic is correct. Al Queda is happy about the election results.

Thread topics cannot "infer." Only people can "infer." I think you meant "implies."

No, it does not imply that at all. It merely means that Al Qaeda and other anti-American forces in the world have co-opted our own politcal discourse and turned it against us.

They've been doing that since they screened Micheal Moore's F-9/11 movie as an actual documentary and lifted scenes and passages directly from it.

No, I am not implying that anyone who voted Democrat is un-American.

Just be aware that the very words which were used in this bitterly fought campaign are now being used as battle cries by forces which want to destroy us. That's not political bluster...that's not demagoguery...that's FACT.

again who cares what they say, would anything make them change their opinions about america? are there any countries that are our allies going to side with them because of what they say? should americans listen to Al queda for their political positions? what do we expect them to say - now the dems are in office we can befriend america ? if the reps had one and al queda said all americans are evil and should jump off the tallest building should we then do it?

let them take whatever position they have about our politics, they are probably glad the Dems go into office - let them be glad


im sure they would love to blow up the white house, but nothing we do\done\will do in iraq will change that fact - they will never be our ally.

the fighting we are involved in will not stop iran from getting\using Nukes.

as blaming clinton wont stop N. Korea from their nuke program.

we brought down sadam (reason no X on the list of why we went to iraq) but everyone says if we dont "stay the course" we have lost, not true - we did what we said we wanted to do, it was just an "oversite" buy the current administration what would happen next - hence the fear mongering and Dems = terroist BS that bush has spewed out to cover the fact he had\has no clue about the iraqi situation now and pre invasion - using fear of some americans to cover for his ineptness - that statement that "fight them there or fight them here" is nonsense. notice how the plan to blow up 10 planes heading to america from europe was foiled by "investigation work" not due to military actions in iraq - also notice how the foiling of that attack was not a political talking point prior to the election, maybe because it validates how this administration uses fear as its primary reason to vote republican and to "stay the course" and not that "undercoover" work and informants (police work) are how these attacks are foiled

America does need to allow the iraqi's to at least try to develop their own gov . and the defense there of - if we stay and do it for them they will never take the defense over themselves - we were in iraq once before, we left and then returned - we can alway do that again.

 

[Wombat]

Still going with that election was stolen stuff eh?

I was thinking that if the Democrats win the presidency and then they control the congress and the presidency, that might be a good thing. Then the people can see that they are just as crappy as the Republicans and maybe folks will finally start to get it that the parties are pretty much the same, and they both deserve to be voted out.

We've already had that. It was called the Carter administration and the 95th Congress.