Are we saying goodbye to Reggie?... (1 Viewer)

[NO-Native]

I guess we could afford 2 of Drew's Ints...he seems to throw at least 1 every game now a days lol.

I guess you'd prefer the Saints having Aaron Brooks back...

 

[GoldRush26]

How many of more than 2 yards, and how many TDs?

What was the margin of victory?

I don't think he was bashing PT. He's saying that it's really foolish to bag on Reggie Bush for not ripping it up with the one carry he got, when obviously PT was having difficulties as well. There were things PT could've done better on a few of his carries. On some of his carries there was nothing there. But the point is you need more than a few, and you can't judge someone off of one carry.

Reggie has 28 carries on the year. There are RBs that get that many in a GAME. We don't know where he is as a RB because he only has a busy game's worth of carries for the whole season.

 

[JordanJC]

I honestly feel sorry for Bush. He'd be a superstar on any other team but Sean Payton seems content using him as a decoy and nothing else. 1 carry tonight, that's not even giving him a chance. Sean Payton is wasting away his potential and I'm sure Bush knows it. You can tell Bush is a guy that works hard and wants to be great but he's just not given the opportunity on this team.

 

[blackngold7733]

No DC in the league wants to gameplan for this guy... NONE OF EM. Nobody wants to be that team to forget about Reggie and let him go off for 100yds and 2 tds... and we all friggin know that reggie can do that if you ease up on him.

Opens up the whole offense when you try to defend a team with a guy like that on it. Sure, maybe he hasn't done it recently but he's a vet now who can break out at any point and defenders know about it.

I sure as hell know I'm glad he's on my team going into the playoffs!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

TWO DAT!!!

 

[Blackwood]

How many of more than 2 yards, and how many TDs?

What was the margin of victory?

LOL, 6 carries of more than 2 yards. He had 19 total carries, 13 of which were -1 to 2 yards. Oh and he scored on a 2 yard run. I'm not seeing this impact, all world player everyone else is seeing...I think he is good but not what everyone else is seeing.

 

[blackadder]

I don't think he was bashing PT. He's saying that it's really foolish to bag on Reggie Bush for not ripping it up with the one carry he got, when obviously PT was having difficulties as well. There were things PT could've done better on a few of his carries. On some of his carries there was nothing there. But the point is you need more than a few, and you can't judge someone off of one carry.

Reggie has 28 carries on the year. There are RBs that get that many in a GAME. We don't know where he is as a RB because he only has a busy game's worth of carries for the whole season.

I like Reggie. I want Reggie on the team.

What I see is that since coming back from the injury, Reggie is back to running sideways, rather than trying to move it North-Soth.

That's what I see.

Sorry.

He has made steps forward in the past.

He could again. But right now it seems back to "two steps forward, one step back".

Pierre is producing more, with the same blockers.

 

[Blackwood]

I don't think he was bashing PT. He's saying that it's really foolish to bag on Reggie Bush for not ripping it up with the one carry he got, when obviously PT was having difficulties as well. There were things PT could've done better on a few of his carries. On some of his carries there was nothing there. But the point is you need more than a few, and you can't judge someone off of one carry.

Reggie has 28 carries on the year. There are RBs that get that many in a GAME. We don't know where he is as a RB because he only has a busy game's worth of carries for the whole season.

Yup, that's it.

 

[blackadder]

LOL, 6 carries of more than 2 yards. He had 19 total carries, 13 of which were -1 to 2 yards. Oh and he scored on a 2 yard run. I'm not seeing this impact, all world player everyone else is seeing...I think he is good but not what everyone else is seeing.

OK.

Leaving out situations, and pass plays, what were Reggie's numbers?

Is the coach favoring Pierre?

 

[blackadder]

I don't think he was bashing PT. He's saying that it's really foolish to bag on Reggie Bush for not ripping it up with the one carry he got, when obviously PT was having difficulties as well. There were things PT could've done better on a few of his carries. On some of his carries there was nothing there. But the point is you need more than a few, and you can't judge someone off of one carry.

Reggie has 28 carries on the year. There are RBs that get that many in a GAME. We don't know where he is as a RB because he only has a busy game's worth of carries for the whole season.

And I agree a bit.

But you rarely see Pierre miss a chance to cut it North and get max yardage, rather than strecth it to the sideline.

 

[DavidM]

No DC in the league wants to gameplan for this guy... NONE OF EM. Nobody wants to be that team to forget about Reggie and let him go off for 100yds and 2 tds... and we all friggin know that reggie can do that if you ease up on him.

I keep reading stuff like this and I just don't know...

Certainly teams gameplan for Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson and yet they are still both very productive despite teams keying on them. Brees. Brady. Manning. All gameplanned for. All still perform at a very high level.

Not saying it has no merit at all -- Bush has playmaking ability that I'm sure every defensive coordinator respects -- but I think the "Bush as a decoy" has grown beyond what it really is anymore.

 

[Blackwood]

OK.

Leaving out situations, and pass plays, what were Reggie's numbers?

Is the coach favoring Pierre?

What's your point? Because you are making none right now. He had 1 carry for 0 yards.

Coach could favor who he wants doesn't make it right and it doesn't mean everyone who is a saints fan has to agree with it.

 

[GoldRush26]

I like Reggie. I want Reggie on the team.

What I see is that since coming back from the injury, Reggie is back to running sideways, rather than trying to move it North-Soth.

That's what I see.

Sorry.

He has made steps forward in the past.

He could again. But right now it seems back to "two steps forward, one step back".

Pierre is producing more, with the same blockers.

Would it surprise you to know that PT averaged 3.3 yards tonight? Would it surprise you to know that PT is averaging 3.2 yards on the season. Reggie is averaging 3.0 yards on the season? So if that's with PT running north-south and Reggie running East-west then I don't know what it says for PT.

So they're actually producing about the same. There is not this huge difference in production that you seem to believe there is. The only difference is that Reggie is not getting as many touches.

 

[blackadder]

Would it surprise you to know that PT averaged 3.3 yards tonight? Would it surprise you to know that PT is averaging 3.2 yards on the season. Reggie is averaging 3.0 yards on the season?

So they're actually producing about the same. There is not this huge difference in production that you seem to believe there is. The only difference is that Reggie is not getting as many touches.

Maybe that's it.

And, like I said, I leave that to Payton.

It just seems like situationally Pierre is making more of it.

Reggie is producing in blitz pickup and unseen stats, but right now in opportunities with the ball, Pierre is doing more for the bottom line.

I can't control the play mix.

 

[GoldRush26]

Maybe that's it.

And, like I said, I leave that to Payton.

It just seems like situationally Pierre is making more of it.

Reggie is producing in blitz pickup and unseen stats, but right now ith opportunities with the ball, Pierre is doing more.

I can't control the play mix.

Statistically they are performing similarly. That can't be disputed. If we want to say that his 3.2 YPC is way better than Reggie's 3.0, whatever. PT's getting more plays called for him so it's going to appear as he's "doing more." But the facts don't support the hypothesis that PT is significantly more productive.

 

[blackadder]

Statistically they are performing similarly. That can't be disputed. If we want to say that his 3.2 YPC is way better than Reggie's 3.0, whatever. PT's getting more plays called for him so it's going to appear as he's "doing more." But the facts don't support the hypothesis that PT is significantly more productive.

You are not addressing the propensity to go North into contact, or go East or West.

On that one pitch to Reggie, it looked like there was a moment where he could have cut it up and lunged for the 1st, or very close to it.

But he kep going laterally and never got close to converting.

Reggie looked great early in the season.

He's not back to that, and part of the reason could be lack of commitment to giving him enough carries. In fact, there is an argumant that in general the Saints lack a commitment to running the ball.

I don't think we are that far apart.