Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (2 Viewers)

[SaintInBucLand]

Yay for me? Also pretty sure the medical community knew this before this study because my doctor had told me that being a breakthrough infection when I was fully vaccinated meant I was in no need of the booster.

Full vaccination against COVID-19 and a breakthrough infection builds 'super immunity,' study finds

A study out of Oregon finds people fully vaccinated for COVID-19 who get a breakthrough infection end up with what the authors call 'super immunity.'

news.yahoo.com

 

[DaveXA]

Yay for me?

Full vaccination against COVID-19 and a breakthrough infection builds 'super immunity,' study finds

A study out of Oregon finds people fully vaccinated for COVID-19 who get a breakthrough infection end up with what the authors call 'super immunity.'

news.yahoo.com

That's me as well. Hope that's true, lol. I guess the question I have is how long that lasts.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

That's me as well. Hope that's true, lol. I guess the question I have is how long that lasts.

T-cells last a long time, antibodies themselves don't stay in your system for too long, because that would leave you in an inflamed state which is not good for cellular health.

 

[efil4stnias]

Yay for me? Also pretty sure the medical community knew this before this study because my doctor had told me that being a breakthrough infection when I was fully vaccinated meant I was in no need of the booster.

Full vaccination against COVID-19 and a breakthrough infection builds 'super immunity,' study finds

A study out of Oregon finds people fully vaccinated for COVID-19 who get a breakthrough infection end up with what the authors call 'super immunity.'

news.yahoo.com

and you are done with long symptoms....wonder if there is any correlation to long covid and extended immunity?

 

[Saint_Ward]

Yay for me? Also pretty sure the medical community knew this before this study because my doctor had told me that being a breakthrough infection when I was fully vaccinated meant I was in no need of the booster.

Full vaccination against COVID-19 and a breakthrough infection builds 'super immunity,' study finds

A study out of Oregon finds people fully vaccinated for COVID-19 who get a breakthrough infection end up with what the authors call 'super immunity.'

news.yahoo.com

Until guidance updates or vaccines are updated to more strain specific formulations, I'd say yeah. Probably good.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

and you are done with long symptoms....wonder if there is any correlation to long covid and extended immunity?

Sense of smell issues, every now and then some heart flutters(which doctors told me is not anything bad because my EKGs are perfect). And still some lingering random nerve pain around my ribs, intercostal muscles and cartilage. I have just adapted to it and doesn't bother me like it once did. This morning I was able to run with burst sprints for 30 seconds at time. Exercising like his in a fasted state is the best thing you can do to stimulate autophagy and growth hormone production, which are both key in fighting long covid.

 

[Zztop]

Dishonorable discharges for COVID vaccine refusal off the table as military separations begin

Only discharges of honorable or general under honorable conditions will be allowed under the new defense authorization bill.

www.militarytimes.com

Punishment for failing to follow the orders could have included a dishonorable discharge designation, a move that would bar those individuals from eligibility for a host of veterans benefits, including GI Bill assistance and Veterans Affairs home loans.

But Maj. Jim Stenger, spokesman for the Marine Corps, said that in nearly all of the cases so far, individuals received dismissals with “general, under honorable conditions” designations. Ann Stefanek, chief of Air Force media operations, said that all of the discharged airmen were assigned status as honorable or general under honorable conditions.

“The Department of the Air Force is following the intent laid out in the national defense authorization act,” she said.

The authorization bill, finalized by Congress on Wednesday, mandates that “any discharge of a servicemember on the sole basis that the member failed to obey a lawful order to receive a vaccine for COVID-19 shall be an honorable discharge, or a general discharge under honorable conditions.”

 

[efil4stnias]

Sense of smell issues, every now and then some heart flutters(which doctors told me is not anything bad because my EKGs are perfect). And still some lingering random nerve pain around my ribs, intercostal muscles and cartilage. I have just adapted to it and doesn't bother me like it once did. This morning I was able to run with burst sprints for 30 seconds at time. Exercising like his in a fasted state is the best thing you can do to stimulate autophagy and growth hormone production, which are both key in fighting long covid.

Well if it helps...I dont have long covid and can only run sprints in 30 second intervals. Lol

 

[sammymvpknight]

Viruses don’t want to kill you. They want to rapidly infect while keeping their host alive. If you are looking at things from a perspective of evolution, you’d expect that COVID will continue to move toward more mild illness. So…though it may be too soon to say…this new variant might be good news.

 

[CajunInVA]

Not great news for those of us that got the J&J... although it appears any adverse effects occur soon after injection - I still think this shot messed up by blood pressure, but haven't seen any hard data to support my theory.

CDC recommends Pfizer or Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine over Johnson & Johnson's due to rare blood clots

A rare side effect is linked to nine deaths out of more than 16 million people vaccinated with the J&J shot.

www.cbsnews.com

I think it did the same to me. I’ve been on the high edge of acceptable for years, but now I’ve shot up. And I still managed to get COVID in October, but it was relatively mild.

 

[SamAndreas]

Dishonorable discharges for COVID vaccine refusal off the table as military separations begin

Only discharges of honorable or general under honorable conditions will be allowed under the new defense authorization bill.

www.militarytimes.com

Punishment for failing to follow the orders could have included a dishonorable discharge designation, a move that would bar those individuals from eligibility for a host of veterans benefits, including GI Bill assistance and Veterans Affairs home loans.

But Maj. Jim Stenger, spokesman for the Marine Corps, said that in nearly all of the cases so far, individuals received dismissals with “general, under honorable conditions” designations. Ann Stefanek, chief of Air Force media operations, said that all of the discharged airmen were assigned status as honorable or general under honorable conditions.

“The Department of the Air Force is following the intent laid out in the national defense authorization act,” she said.

The authorization bill, finalized by Congress on Wednesday, mandates that “any discharge of a servicemember on the sole basis that the member failed to obey a lawful order to receive a vaccine for COVID-19 shall be an honorable discharge, or a general discharge under honorable conditions.”

I like to hear that, I thought that's what they would do, but there have been people saying they would get a dishonorable discharge. And even a couple mean people who think they ought to get time in the brig as well.

I support that they are making them vaccinate, I feel it's a military necessity, and back when they jabbed me with a few mandatory vacations. But I don't think it's dishonorable for them to accept a discharge if they really don't want to take it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I’ll admit I’ve posted more than a few “Covid denying anti-vaxxer dies of Covid” articles
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Recent months have seen a rising number of ideas for making life unpleasant for the unvaccinated. Vaccine mandates, of course, but why not also jack up their premiums for health or life insurance?

Hell, charge them for the cost of treatment if they catch covid-19. And while you’re at it, maybe push them to the back of the triage line.


I won’t try to argue that this is cruel or medically unethical; the authors of these proposals will simply retort that spreading covid-19 is also cruel and medically unethical.

So instead, let’s ask whether such policies are justifiable and, if so, whether they actually work.


In some cases, yes, there are clearly valid reasons to treat the unvaccinated differently from the vaccinated, and possibly effective ways to do so.

When unvaccinated people impose substantial, direct and unnecessary costs on others, it’s fair to impose rules that limit the damage or recoup those costs……

But such policies have to be proportionate to actual risk, not merely punitive. And let’s be honest: Many vaccinated folks are feeling pretty punitive. They’d like to change minds, or failing that, at least change behavior.

But they’ll settle for making anti-vaxxers pay for their pigheaded refusal to protect others or themselves. Hence the popularity of anecdotes in which anti-vaxxers catch covid-19 and then die in the horrified realization that they did this to themselves. Blue America loves to share these morality tales with sanctimonious sorrow — so sad! (So satisfying!)


The best defense of the punitive instinct is that more people might get jabbed if we make it sufficiently costly not to resist.

But at this point we’ve reached a hard core of refusers who are not merely a little hesitant, but apparently happy to risk their lives rather than take a shot.

If the possibility of dying doesn’t faze them, how likely are they to respond to lesser threats? And if the answer is “not very,” can we really justify punishing them anyway?…..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/15/targeting-vaccine-resistance-lets-leave-punishment-aside/

 

[Dago]

Boostered up yesterday. Got some arm soreness and that is it.

Was a bit concerned as i am fasting but no issues

 

[Devildog]

I don't know if it's been stated in this thread, but what's the verdict on boosters as to which one to get? My initial vaccination was Moderna and I want to get the booster. Should I just stick with Moderna or go with Phizer?

 

[buzd]

I don't know if it's been stated in this thread, but what's the verdict on boosters as to which one to get? My initial vaccination was Moderna and I want to get the booster. Should I just stick with Moderna or go with Phizer?

Generally the data seems to be better on the Moderna vaccine in general, but a lot of good results have been reported with mixing. Since you had Moderna initially, I would say you are good with either. I think the Moderna may be a slightly higher dose.