Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (5 Viewers)

[Tapxe]

 

[Taurus]

I tell ya I hear this a lot. I do feel sorry for her. I won't claim to know where it started, or who started it, but this covid thing being politicized is terrible. Left blames right, right blames left. People are sick and are dying. Minds are closed. I hate where we are as a country right now. She more than likely felt like she had to speak out against it because she needs the support of the right. If covid had not been politicized it wouldn't be a talking point and I bet more people would be vaccinated right now. I lost a friend over me getting a vaccine. He has said it to mutual friends that he knows people think he is going crazy by the constant badgering he does, but he can't stop himself. I just find it sad.

But we do know how it got politicized. He's on film doing it. He's on tape saying exactly why he did it.
We can't let those responsible for America's godawful response to Covid skate free.
Want to know how being antivax got so widespread? Just watch the press meetings. It's become a symbol of tribal identity.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The illegal sale of coronavirus vaccination cards began as a simple operation out of David Hodges’s home in Lewes, Del., federal prosecutors said.


Last February, Hodges, a paramedic who worked at a coronavirus vaccination site, started printing blank vaccine cards he found online, a complaint states.


But by the time investigators discovered the scheme months later, prosecutors said, the operation had become more sophisticated. Hodges had taken blank vaccination cards from his workplace, according to the complaint, and pocketed nearly $1,300 after selling an unspecified number of the documents.


Federal authorities have since charged Hodges with stealing the authentic coronavirus vaccination cards from the Dover, Del., vaccination site where he worked and selling them for various fees, according to the criminal complaint unsealed Tuesday.

Prosecutors say he labeled them with real vaccine lot numbers to make the cards appear legitimate……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/05/paramedic-stole-covid-vaccine-cards-sell-unvaccinated/

 

[UptownSaintsFan]

The illegal sale of coronavirus vaccination cards began as a simple operation out of David Hodges’s home in Lewes, Del., federal prosecutors said.


Last February, Hodges, a paramedic who worked at a coronavirus vaccination site, started printing blank vaccine cards he found online, a complaint states.


But by the time investigators discovered the scheme months later, prosecutors said, the operation had become more sophisticated. Hodges had taken blank vaccination cards from his workplace, according to the complaint, and pocketed nearly $1,300 after selling an unspecified number of the documents.


Federal authorities have since charged Hodges with stealing the authentic coronavirus vaccination cards from the Dover, Del., vaccination site where he worked and selling them for various fees, according to the criminal complaint unsealed Tuesday.

Prosecutors say he labeled them with real vaccine lot numbers to make the cards appear legitimate……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/05/paramedic-stole-covid-vaccine-cards-sell-unvaccinated/

I know of someone using a fake vaccination card and i'd love to report them. though after some googling, i have no clue of who to actually report the person to.

 

[faceman]

I know of someone using a fake vaccination card and i'd love to report them. though after some googling, i have no clue of who to actually report the person to.

Your local health dept. would be a good place to start.

 

[St. Widge]

I think its all of the above. We still have pockets of the world that have yet to get 1 shot coverage across their populations, so maybe prioritize that first. Also seems to think it might be medically unnecessary except for vulnerable populations. Vaccines are not without some side effects and can create some non-zero amount of harm, which becomes a closer call with milder disease.

Personally I am wrestling with what to do with my college daughter - she had symptomatic COVID last spring, then was double vaxxed this summer, and now just tested positive again with basically zero symptoms. She also had mono last month. The idea that she needs a booster after being double vaxxed and twice infected in less than 12 months .... I would kind of like to give her immune system a break.

Yeah, that seems like a tough call in that situation. I just wish there was more evidence regarding whether there are any risks, outside of the normal risk of vaccination, to getting boosted. I'm not aware of any, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I was double dosed with Pfizer then got COVID while evacuated after Ida. But my 18 year-old daughter, to our knowledge, never got COVID and tested negative when the wife and I were positive. I kind of waited on the booster since I figured I had some natural immunity added to my vaccination (plus I had the monoclonal antibody treatment so I had to wait), but I ended up getting booster before Christmas but mostly due to Omicron and spending time with older family members for Christmas.

My daughter decided on her own to get boosted, but I wasn't really pushing it or against it.

 

[St. Widge]

And then he goes on to talk about the importance of global vaccination, which perhaps suggests he thinks further shots in well off nations hinders that. Perhaps, but I don't think that has to be inevitable. Or, conversely, if it is inevitable, I don't think not providing further vaccinations locally will suddenly cause wealthy nations to step up in terms of global vaccinations.

Yeah, it's kind of like when your mom told you to eat all the food on your plate because there are starving children in India. It's not like if the U.S. and U.K. don't do boosters those shots will magically appear in Africa.

I do, however, see the point about the idea that the virus hasn't yet settled into a fairly predictable pattern the way the flu has. But, as a lay person it just seems like it makes sense to get boosted if they can adjust the vaccines to new strains and prevent serious illness and the possible long term effects of COVID.

 

[St. Widge]

Indeed, but I think that happened more because anti-vaxxers inserted themselves into the political sphere more than they had previously. They needed and found a malleable audience, I'll say that much.

What is particularly interesting to me is that the anti-vax community pre COVID appeared to be of the opposite political bent to the larger anti-vax community post COVID. Maybe it was just my incorrect subjective impression, but pre-COVID, it seemed that most anti-vax people were more you hippie holistic medicine types. Although, I guess there has always been a small group of "mark of the beast" anti-vaxxers.

 

[DaveXA]

What is particularly interesting to me is that the anti-vax community pre COVID appeared to be of the opposite political bent to the larger anti-vax community post COVID. Maybe it was just my incorrect subjective impression, but pre-COVID, it seemed that most anti-vax people were more you hippie holistic medicine types. Although, I guess there has always been a small group of "mark of the beast" anti-vaxxers.

Indeed. I think they just decided to take the path of least resistance route. Political persuasion was secondary to the antivax messaging, imo.

 

[Eeyore]

The world just needs to shift distribution of the majority of full dose vaccines to the places that still have need. If people haven't been vaxxed yet that was their choice. We can still keep some for people who are coming of age or had legitimate reasons for not being vaxxed before. Unvaccinated areas are breeding grounds for variants. I'd like to see everyone get their chance at the vaccine.

Keep boosters coming for as long as needed but, right now, who knows what that is.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Interesting way to resign
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A Utah tech executive acknowledged his email opining about coronavirus vaccines to state lawmakers and business executives “sounds bonkers.” But he sent it anyway.

“I believe there is a sadistic effort underway to euthanize the American people,” Dave Bateman, co-founder of Entrata, a property management software company, wrote Tuesday, KSTU first reported.

“I believe the Jews are behind this,” he added.

The email, littered with baseless claims and antisemitic tropes about the vaccines, led to an immediate backlash from the Utah tech community, religious leaders and politicians. Bateman resigned as chairman on Tuesday.

In a statement, Entrata chief executive Adam Edmunds condemned Bateman’s conspiracy theories, which he said do not reflect the values of the company.

“To be absolutely clear, we at Entrata firmly condemn antisemitism in any and all forms,” the statement said. “For those who have seen and been offended or disturbed by the content of Dave’s email, we understand and share your disappointment.”

Bateman did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment late Tuesday. In a text message to a reporter for KSTU, Bateman confirmed he sent the email and said he “had no intention of raising a big stir” and has “nothing but love for the Jewish people.”

“Some of my closest friends are Jews,” he said. Bateman then doubled down on his falsehoods, adding, “I fear billions of people around the globe right now are being exterminated.”

Bateman is one of three founders of Entrata, which was formed in 2003. The software company has raised more than $500 million in investor funding, according to Forbes, and is valued at more than $1 billion. Bateman stepped down as chief executive in 2020 and moved to Puerto Rico. Despite leaving his post as chairman Tuesday, he is still the largest stakeholder in the company, Forbes reported.

Bateman sent the email early Tuesday morning to more than 50 recipients, including Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R), Utah Senate Minority Whip Luz Escamilla (D) and Ryan Smith, the owner of the Utah Jazz, KSTU reported.

It included antisemitic and false claims that the Jewish people conspired to make a vaccine that would weaken immune systems to kill off billions of people and that for 300 years “Jews have been trying to infiltrate the Catholic Church and place a Jew covertly at the top.”

“I believe the pandemic and systematic extermination of billions of people will lead to an effort to consolidate all the countries in the world under a single flag with totalitarian rule,” Bateman wrote, according to KSTU.

“I pray that I’m wrong on this,” Bateman continued. “Utah has got to stop the vaccination drive. Warn your employees. Warn your friends. Prepare. Stay safe.”......

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[gboudx]

I hadn't heard that conspiracy theory before. So the Jews created the vaccines to exterminate the world to usher in, basically, a New World Order of 1 government. Did they also unleash Covid on the world so they could develop this vaccine? I guess using the space lasers to cause the California wildfires wasn't enough for them.

/insertsarcasmsmiliethingy.

 

[Bleu Raeder]

Interesting way to resign
====================

A Utah tech executive acknowledged his email opining about coronavirus vaccines to state lawmakers and business executives “sounds bonkers.” But he sent it anyway.

“I believe there is a sadistic effort underway to euthanize the American people,” Dave Bateman, co-founder of Entrata, a property management software company, wrote Tuesday, KSTU first reported.

“I believe the Jews are behind this,” he added.

The email, littered with baseless claims and antisemitic tropes about the vaccines, led to an immediate backlash from the Utah tech community, religious leaders and politicians. Bateman resigned as chairman on Tuesday.

In a statement, Entrata chief executive Adam Edmunds condemned Bateman’s conspiracy theories, which he said do not reflect the values of the company.

“To be absolutely clear, we at Entrata firmly condemn antisemitism in any and all forms,” the statement said. “For those who have seen and been offended or disturbed by the content of Dave’s email, we understand and share your disappointment.”

Bateman did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment late Tuesday. In a text message to a reporter for KSTU, Bateman confirmed he sent the email and said he “had no intention of raising a big stir” and has “nothing but love for the Jewish people.”

“Some of my closest friends are Jews,” he said. Bateman then doubled down on his falsehoods, adding, “I fear billions of people around the globe right now are being exterminated.”

Bateman is one of three founders of Entrata, which was formed in 2003. The software company has raised more than $500 million in investor funding, according to Forbes, and is valued at more than $1 billion. Bateman stepped down as chief executive in 2020 and moved to Puerto Rico. Despite leaving his post as chairman Tuesday, he is still the largest stakeholder in the company, Forbes reported.

Bateman sent the email early Tuesday morning to more than 50 recipients, including Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R), Utah Senate Minority Whip Luz Escamilla (D) and Ryan Smith, the owner of the Utah Jazz, KSTU reported. It included antisemitic and false claims that the Jewish people conspired to make a vaccine that would weaken immune systems to kill off billions of people and that for 300 years “Jews have been trying to infiltrate the Catholic Church and place a Jew covertly at the top.”

“I believe the pandemic and systematic extermination of billions of people will lead to an effort to consolidate all the countries in the world under a single flag with totalitarian rule,” Bateman wrote, according to KSTU.

“I pray that I’m wrong on this,” Bateman continued. “Utah has got to stop the vaccination drive. Warn your employees. Warn your friends. Prepare. Stay safe.”......

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Nut job gonna' nut job.

 

[St. Widge]

“Some of my closest friends are Jews,” he said. Bateman then doubled down on his falsehoods, adding, “I fear billions of people around the globe right now are being exterminated.”

I know I shouldn't laugh, but that is just so wacky it's funny. I mean between the I'm not racist, "I have Jewish friends", and the but they are part of a conspiracy to exterminate billions . . . well, I'm very amused.

 

[St. Widge]

I hadn't heard that conspiracy theory before. So the Jews created the vaccines to exterminate the world to usher in, basically, a New World Order of 1 government. Did they also unleash Covid on the world so they could develop this vaccine? I guess using the space lasers to cause the California wildfires wasn't enough for them.

/insertsarcasmsmiliethingy.

I'm sure the theory has to have something to do with Jeffrey Epstein and the world wide Jewish Pedophile Cabal.