Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (5 Viewers)

[LonghornSaint]

Awesome, thanks. I'll try to read them tonight or this weekend.

If you can't download the pdf for the JAMA article, let me know and I will download and send it to you.

 

[LonghornSaint]

Also, the JAMA article is a writeup summarizing recent studies. If you want the actual original articles I should be able to get them it you want.

 

[sammymvpknight]

That is just how he posts lol, we are all used to it now.

At first I was like…wow this is a well written SR.com post, but then I realized the author. Lol

 

[Buickman]

 

[Optimus Prime]

I come back to my happy place and everyone’s all

 

[Saint_Ward]

Also, the JAMA article is a writeup summarizing recent studies. If you want the actual original articles I should be able to get them it you want.

I may stick with the CDC for now. I'm drinking and probably not ready to read all that, but thanks. I may later. Depends.

Speaking of which, from that first study...

If I'm reading this right, this is people who were at the ER, either complaining about being sick, or just show were there for anything. So, % positive based on status. during Delta and Omicron being the predominant strain. Omicron has less data from this time period, so it may be over estimating all groups.

I'll ignore VE for now, but just looking at it, the unvaccinated, during the Delta surge, 37% were covid-19 positive, while longer term 2 dosers, were 13% positive, and those who were boosted, were a paltry 3.2% positive.

Omicron switches it up a bit, where unvaccinated were almost 50%, either 2 dose group, regardless of time was around a third positive, and anyone boosted was 13% positive. So, suggests lower vaccine effectiveness, but also suggest higher odds of unvaccinated getting infected.




Now, hospitalizations. About 40% of unvaccinated had covid and were hospitalized. Or hospitalized,and had covid. Then, each vaccination group was dramatically less. Interesting how the 3 doses group is so low. Keep in mind, that's also predominantly the oldest folks who had their booster by then, who are more likely to be hospitalized.

 

[dtc]

I guess that doesn't bother me since that's generally how you quote something in a paper or legal memo with a footnote dropped with the source. But, it would be more clear if he put quotation marks around the stuff he is quoting/excerpting and then put the link to the article. But, like others have said, I am used to him doing it like that so I don't really give it a second thought.

It used to bother me, but it's his MO and I've become used to it and appreciative of the various posts. I do believe it would be better form were it cited and explained at the top of the post rather than the bottom.

For what it's worth.

 

[DaveXA]

It used to bother me, but it's his MO and I've become used to it and appreciative of the various posts. I do believe it would be better form were it cited and explained at the top of the post rather than the bottom.

For what it's worth.

Yeah, I agree. Link at the top would clear it up I would think.

 

[LonghornSaint]

The OP stated about half of the people he knew were reluctant to get vaxxed, and that was Dec of 2020. @Dre possible if you could provide an update on that breakdown, and maybe how it progressed? Thanks in advance!

 

[Dre]

The OP stated about half of the people he knew were reluctant to get vaxxed, and that was Dec of 2020. @Dre possible if you could provide an update on that breakdown, and maybe how it progressed? Thanks in advance!

Well anticlimactic answer: the hospital mandated the vaccine and so almost everyone got vaccinated. A handful of people left. No lasting side effects as far as I know lol.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

I found 204 studies on Ivermectin.
I found 83 studies on Ivermectin and COVID-19.
I found 11 studies that have results on Ivermectin and COVID-19.

For review: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=

There are only a handful of trials in which Ivermectin was used with another drug, such as Doxycycline, Hydroxychloroquine, Low-Dose Aspirin, Nitazoxanide, Ribavirin, Iota-Carrageenan, and others. Five mentions the dietary supplement zinc. Many of the studies listed are in the "recruiting" phase, indicating no work has been done yet.

In the trial you mention (https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04482686) there are only 31 enrolled and will not be complete until July 2022 (estimated). There is nothing here on which to base an "emergency use" authorization. The other drug is pronounced daak·suh·sai·kleen or docks-uh-sigh-clean.

I encourage anyone interested to peruse these clinical trials and the information associated with them.

I gave you an out, not a way to "sticky" [sic] my chest out further. I don't have a theory, so I don't need to justify it.

I am calling out the, "From the description I read posted in the physician workroom, it stated under emergency FDA use for onsetting Covid treatment within ambulatory care, not to be used as treatment on the inpatient side." because if there is a poster stating emergency FDA use the FDA would reflect that in other materials. I am not saying that you did not see that notice, but I am saying that the notice has taken liberty with the term, "emergency FDA use".

That's a clinical trial set up to see if it is effective and doesn't have results posted yet.

So when I said "Are you sure you're not thinking of some trial or other?" you meant to say, "Yes."

Because that's a trial. It's not an approval. It's not a emergency use authorization. It's a trial.

And it's also a trial that's not recruiting, and appears to have been largely abandoned, since it lists actual enrollment as of October 19, 2021 as 31 people, against their original estimate of 300.

All of which means you're not going to get a 'an approved cockatil by the FDA for onsetting Covid is Ivermectin, Vitamin C, D and some antibiotic I cannot pronounce nor remember' in the ER.

10/10 from all of you.

 

[Zack Lee]

Ive been lured into a false sense of security with this thing. Everyone around me got sick for Christmas and I just kept on working with no issues. I have already avoided it in a small apartment with 2 sic individuals home at all times. Probably for my own sanity, I decided to ignore Covid after my second dose. I do everything I am supposed to with masks and such but I have not signed up for a booster yet. I just realized the folly and I am making it top priority mañana.

 

[dtc]

Ive been lured into a false sense of security with this thing. Everyone around me got sick for Christmas and I just kept on working with no issues. I have already avoided it in a small apartment with 2 sic individuals home at all times. Probably for my own sanity, I decided to ignore Covid after my second dose. I do everything I am supposed to with masks and such but I have not signed up for a booster yet. I just realized the folly and I am making it top priority mañana.

Good idea.

 

[DaveXA]

Ive been lured into a false sense of security with this thing. Everyone around me got sick for Christmas and I just kept on working with no issues. I have already avoided it in a small apartment with 2 sic individuals home at all times. Probably for my own sanity, I decided to ignore Covid after my second dose. I do everything I am supposed to with masks and such but I have not signed up for a booster yet. I just realized the folly and I am making it top priority mañana.

Yeah, my kids are vaxxed and no booster yet. They got it, but none had a bad case. I haven't gotten a booster yet and it's right about that window for me to do it. Probably will this week.

 

[Zack Lee]

Yeah, my kids are vaxxed and no booster yet. They got it, but none had a bad case. I haven't gotten a booster yet and it's right about that window for me to do it. Probably will this week.

good news Dave! I hope we move to an even weaker strain next time. I would like to see some semblance of normalcy one more time before I croak.