Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (3 Viewers)

[Bleu Raeder]

Thats what I found with a quick Google, Im sure if I spend an hour or longer I can find more. All I can tell you is what I read posted all over the Physician work areas regarding Covid treatment. I think we have an emergency physician on this thread "Dre" whom can maybe explain it in better detail not saying its in use at his hospital, Ive only seen it posted at two different emerency departments not every hospital has it posted.

It took us less than a minute to do the search to show you that you were incorrect in your assertions. If you have to spend an hour searching for something to support your argument you're looking for a non-existent needle in some haystack somewhere.

 

[itztime]

It took us less than a minute to do the search to show you that you were incorrect in your assertions. If you have to spend an hour searching for something to support your argument you're looking for a non-existent needle in some haystack somewhere.

Probably took less than that, the Q/A came straight from the link Brennan posted where you didnt prove much of anything that I already didnt know. Believe what you want though.

 

[Bleu Raeder]

Probably took less than that, the Q/A came straight from the link Brennan posted where you didnt prove much of anything that I already didnt know. Believe what you want though.

Heck, I did a search about the cocktail that you speak of and doctors doing the prescribing and came up with this after a quick search -

Physicians prescribing ivermectin for COVID-19 despite FDA warning

Some physicians continue to prescribe COVID-19 patients ivermectin, a drug most often used to treat parasitic worms in animals, despite warnings from the FDA that the drug should not be used to treat the virus.

www.beckershospitalreview.com

The CDC warned healthcare providers and the public Aug. 26 about reports of severe illness associated with using ivermectin products to prevent or treat COVID-19. In some cases, people have ingested ivermectin products purchased without a prescription, including topical formulations and veterinary products, the CDC said. Side effects of ivermectin poisoning can range from gastrointestinal symptoms to hypotension and neurological effects.

And this: https://www.scientificamerican.com/...rmectin-for-covid-despite-a-lack-of-evidence/

Fringe

Looks good on a surry.

Oooo, here's a good one in Roseburg: https://eugeneweekly.com/2021/09/01/roseburg-doctor-prescribes-ivermectin-to-covid-19-patients/

And if you read the doctor's connected blog you'll see a real winner.

What was it that Viper said to Maverick? "You take a hard right, select zone 5 and extend your escape." Maybe you should take Viper's advice here.

 

[itztime]

Heck, I did a search about the cocktail that you speak of and doctors doing the prescribing and came up with this after a quick search -

Physicians prescribing ivermectin for COVID-19 despite FDA warning

Some physicians continue to prescribe COVID-19 patients ivermectin, a drug most often used to treat parasitic worms in animals, despite warnings from the FDA that the drug should not be used to treat the virus.

www.beckershospitalreview.com

And this: https://www.scientificamerican.com/...rmectin-for-covid-despite-a-lack-of-evidence/



Looks good on a surry.

Oooo, here's a good one in Roseburg: https://eugeneweekly.com/2021/09/01/roseburg-doctor-prescribes-ivermectin-to-covid-19-patients/

And if you read the doctor's connected blog you'll see a real winner.

What was it that Viper said to Maverick? "You take a hard right, select zone 5 and extend your escape."

Like I said believe what you want, find whatever you need to do to justify your theory, find some cool movie quotes to help sticky your chest out farther. I'm only telling you what I seen and I work in that environment, if it helps you to know, Im not adovocating for the use of Ivermentic for treatment of Covid, only was just saying as an FYI its being used . With that being said, I don't believe it was a prescription, it was some cocktail and I found that cocktail through the clinical trials website with an "under a minute" google search, since we are really stuck on Google search times right now. From the description I read posted in the physician workroom, it stated under emergency FDA use for onsetting Covid treatment within ambulatory care, not to be used as treatment on the inpatient side.

 

[sfidc3]

That's a clinical trial set up to see if it is effective and doesn't have results posted yet.

A perfect example of "doing your own research" here....LOL

 

[Bleu Raeder]

Like I said believe what you want, find whatever you need to do to justify your theory, find some cool movie quotes to help sticky your chest out farther. I'm only telling you what I seen and I work in that environment, if it helps you to know, Im not adovocating for the use of Ivermentic for treatment of Covid, only was just saying as an FYI its being used . With that being said, I don't believe it was a prescription, it was some cocktail and I found that cocktail through the clinical trials website with an "under a minute" google search, since we are really stuck on Google search times right now. From the description I read posted in the physician workroom, it stated under emergency FDA use for onsetting Covid treatment within ambulatory care, not to be used as treatment on the inpatient side.

I found 204 studies on Ivermectin.
I found 83 studies on Ivermectin and COVID-19.
I found 11 studies that have results on Ivermectin and COVID-19.

For review: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=

There are only a handful of trials in which Ivermectin was used with another drug, such as Doxycycline, Hydroxychloroquine, Low-Dose Aspirin, Nitazoxanide, Ribavirin, Iota-Carrageenan, and others. Five mentions the dietary supplement zinc. Many of the studies listed are in the "recruiting" phase, indicating no work has been done yet.

In the trial you mention (https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04482686) there are only 31 enrolled and will not be complete until July 2022 (estimated). There is nothing here on which to base an "emergency use" authorization. The other drug is pronounced daak·suh·sai·kleen or docks-uh-sigh-clean.

I encourage anyone interested to peruse these clinical trials and the information associated with them.

I gave you an out, not a way to "sticky" [sic] my chest out further. I don't have a theory, so I don't need to justify it.

I am calling out the, "From the description I read posted in the physician workroom, it stated under emergency FDA use for onsetting Covid treatment within ambulatory care, not to be used as treatment on the inpatient side." because if there is a poster stating emergency FDA use the FDA would reflect that in other materials. I am not saying that you did not see that notice, but I am saying that the notice has taken liberty with the term, "emergency FDA use".

 

[TheRealJRad]

This also isn't from the CDC.

 

[DaveXA]

This also isn't from the CDC.

The CDC is part of the FDA though. But you're technically correct.

Edit: Actually the CDC and FDA are both part of HHS. They're separate agencies, although they do work together on a number of issues.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The CDC is part of the FDA though. But you're technically correct.

 

[TheRealJRad]

This was the exact reply that popped in my head.

 

[Eeyore]

Man, if folks don't water it down (even then, it's dangerous over time)..... Basically gonna burn your nasal passageways and other oropharyngeal surfaces. Not sure if burns to the point of bleeding could then get oxygenated enough to cause arterial gas embolism, but it is a risk from ingestion of concentrated H2O2.

Hydrogen peroxide is a caustic. And concentrated exposure can lead to respiratory failure.

That's something that a pro-vaxxer would say.

 

[sammymvpknight]

I found 204 studies on Ivermectin.
I found 83 studies on Ivermectin and COVID-19.
I found 11 studies that have results on Ivermectin and COVID-19.

For review: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=

There are only a handful of trials in which Ivermectin was used with another drug, such as Doxycycline, Hydroxychloroquine, Low-Dose Aspirin, Nitazoxanide, Ribavirin, Iota-Carrageenan, and others. Five mentions the dietary supplement zinc. Many of the studies listed are in the "recruiting" phase, indicating no work has been done yet.

In the trial you mention (https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04482686) there are only 31 enrolled and will not be complete until July 2022 (estimated). There is nothing here on which to base an "emergency use" authorization. The other drug is pronounced daak·suh·sai·kleen or docks-uh-sigh-clean.

I encourage anyone interested to peruse these clinical trials and the information associated with them.

I gave you an out, not a way to "sticky" [sic] my chest out further. I don't have a theory, so I don't need to justify it.

I am calling out the, "From the description I read posted in the physician workroom, it stated under emergency FDA use for onsetting Covid treatment within ambulatory care, not to be used as treatment on the inpatient side." because if there is a poster stating emergency FDA use the FDA would reflect that in other materials. I am not saying that you did not see that notice, but I am saying that the notice has taken liberty with the term, "emergency FDA use".

Dude performing a meta-analysis on Saintsreport. Lol well done

 

[LonghornSaint]

I think I said this a few times in the original covid thread, but I am more than happy to download pdfs from pubmed (provided I have access to them, which should be most of them) and email them to people.

 

[Bleu Raeder]

This also isn't from the CDC.

I was responding to this:

 

[SWJJ]