N/S Ben Johnson (3 Viewers)

[No2DC]

This is a lousy spot until Lucky steps down: terrible cap, no competent GM, serious QB questions, and an aging roster.

 

[NatureBoy]

I've acknowledged it's probably a long-shot, and will largely depend on what other jobs are available. Johnson wasn't interested in any openings last year and that may be the case again?
We might stand a shot because we can offer a ton of money and perhaps some input to the FO--depending on how all of that shakes out? There could be a power vacuum to fill?
Ben Johnson is young enough to possibly desire a tear-down rebuild?

All good points, but we have nothing other than money to offer. Besides not having a competent front office, we don't have a strong owner. This is a bad situation.

 

[2024InjuryApocalypse]

This is a lousy spot until Lucky steps down: terrible cap, no competent GM, serious QB questions, and an aging roster.

We basically need to get lucky with somebody like we did with Payton in 06 who came here after GB didn't hire him.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

We basically need to get lucky with somebody like we did with Payton in 06 who came here after GB didn't hire him.

If we keep losing we'll have a top 5 pick. HC gets to choose between Akers/Sanders in a not so tough division. Another thing that could help is he wouldn't need to bring much defensive staff w/ him. Michael Hodges could be a candidate to run the defense, considering we already utilize the defense being used in Detroit.

 

[solarbear88]

As Underhill said, a guy like Johnson won't want to come here. So another DA is about all we will get.

 

[Saint Jack]

As Underhill said, a guy like Johnson won't want to come here.

You never know, Reid took the Chiefs after a 2-14 season and the Belcher incident.

 

[solarbear88]

You never know, Reid took the Chiefs after a 2-14 season and the Belcher incident.

Chiefs didn't have our Cap issues building a team. We are in a crap city and a bad market with huge cap issues. Working with Loomis. No one will come. You will get some hopeless dude who no one wants.

 

[Saint Jack]

Chiefs didn't have our Cap issues building a team. We are in a crap city and a bad market with huge cap issues. Working with Loomis. No one will come. You will get some hopeless dude who no one wants.

And KC is? They’re a flyover state!

 

[Saint Jack]

Chiefs didn't have our Cap issues building a team. We are in a crap city and a bad market with huge cap issues. Working with Loomis. No one will come. You will get some hopeless dude who no one wants.

And the Chiefs just had a murder in the practice facility a few months before hiring Reid.
They were down bad during that time with no hope with only one playoff appearance since 06 before Reid was hired.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Ben Johnson will be at the top of every team’s list that is searching for a new HC next offseason. He will get to pick where he wants to go… and it won’t be New Orleans.
He’d be a fool to choose a team saddled with terrible contracts, a regressing QB, and aging leadership.

Everyone is in denial if they honestly think ANY of the top HC candidates will want this job.

We have a terrible cap situation, aging roster, zero depth, no franchise QB, and a complete lack of young talent.

Whatever HC we hire will be jumping on a live grenade and will ultimately be fired.

 

[St. Widge]

Everyone is in denial if they honestly think ANY of the top HC candidates will want this job.

We have a terrible cap situation, aging roster, zero depth, no franchise QB, and a complete lack of young talent.

Whatever HC we hire will be jumping on a live grenade and will ultimately be fired.

The cap will be fine in a couple years and I don't think it's near as big an issue to coaches as it is to fans arguing on the internet. The roster is aging, but we do have some good young players in Fuaga, Olave, Shaheed, Breese, Taylor, Kool-Aid, and maybe Penning and Rattler. Miller even looked good on Thursday.

Plus we will likely have a top 5 or top 10 draft pick.

The reality is that any job that will be available will have major issues. If they didn't then the job wouldn't be open unless it's someone retiring on top which isn't happening this year. The available jobs aren't going to have franchise QBs unless you think Lawrence is one and I don't think he has shown to be that.

We have issues, but all the jobs will have issues. Regardless, even if we don't get the top guy, who is likely Ben Johnson, there will still be plenty good options out there. Frankly, there are better options this year than the year we hired DA.

Sorry to bring some reality into this pitty and misery party.

 

[jasonsw]

The cap will be fine in a couple years and I don't think it's near as big an issue to coaches as it is to fans arguing on the internet. The roster is aging, but we do have some good young players in Fuaga, Olave, Shaheed, Breese, Taylor, Kool-Aid, and maybe Penning and Rattler. Miller even looked good on Thursday.

Plus we will likely have a top 5 or top 10 draft pick.

The reality is that any job that will be available will have major issues. If they didn't then the job wouldn't be open unless it's someone retiring on top which isn't happening this year. The jobs aren't going to have franchise QBs unless you think Lawrence is one and I don't think he has shown to be that.

We have issues, but all the jobs will have issues. Regardless, even if we don't get the top guy, who is likely Ben Johnson, there will still be plenty good options out there. Frankly, there are better options this year than the year we hired DA.

Sorry to bring some reality into this pitty and misery party.

That Lawrence contract was terrible. He leads the NFL since 2021 in qb fumbles by a huge margin, and i think he has thrown the most INTs. He is a turnover machine. Even since his first year in college Lawrence has mostly only declined

 

[SweetT]

Saying that no one would want to take our HC job is insane. Yes, we don’t have the greatest of situations, but there are many HCs and assistants, that would love to take a position that doesn’t come along too often. Not every candidate will be “scared” as well. Most of these guys are confident in their abilities and they just want a chance.

 

[solarbear88]

The cap will be fine in a couple years and I don't think it's near as big an issue to coaches as it is to fans arguing on the internet. The roster is aging, but we do have some good young players in Fuaga, Olave, Shaheed, Breese, Taylor, Kool-Aid, and maybe Penning and Rattler. Miller even looked good on Thursday.

It will be 2028 before we get over our Cap issues. That is a lot of seasons for a coach to be playing with other people's players, especially players that are always hurt and B level players at best. Ben Johnson or anyone like him won't come here.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

The cap will be fine in a couple years and I don't think it's near as big an issue to coaches as it is to fans arguing on the internet.

Why would any coach take a job that requires a "couple of years" to get the cap situated? Other teams are ready now.

The roster is aging, but we do have some good young players in Fuaga, Olave, Shaheed, Breese, Taylor, Kool-Aid, and maybe Penning and Rattler. Miller even looked good on Thursday.

Zero pro bowls amongst them all. Bresee in particular has been awful this year.

The reality is that any job that will be available will have major issues.

Sure. But the top tier candidates won't settle for them. Ben is a great example of this and stayed with the Lions.