Opinion Brian Flores Is the only Defensive HC that should be considered by the Saints. The Vikings are not going to keep him past this yr. (1 Viewer)

[Cajun Mike]

Pass Big time. His track record speaks for itself

 

[DaveXA]

I would have been interested in Flores before Allen was hired, but now? Not so much. I'd like to either stick with Rizz or hire a young, hungry offensive minded HC.

 

[Det. Brees]

No!

 

[DSnfla]

I agree, he has to have good coordinators around him to be successful. KK doesn't strike me as a HC so I think we'll be able to keep the offensive staff in place for at least next season, maybe longer. Rizzi being a ST guy will know who's the best to have in place, it could be someone he's already brought in to continue their development or an up and comer. DC is the wildcard since that was DA's side and he built that defense. I like the changes Woods has done already, but who knows what happens there.

Why does Rizzi being a ST guy know who is best to have in place?? We have no clue about Rizzi's talent evaluation skills. He's never been a NFL or major college OC or DC. All we know about him is he's a very good ST coach and ST players are made up of position players already on the team

 

[DSnfla]

I think you just stick with Rizzi if you want to keep the entire coaching staff.

Offense yes, defense I'm not sure

 

[DSnfla]

Rizzi didn't just leave things status quo.

Who knows why he hasn't been hired as a HC yet, but he's getting his chance to show what he's got right now and it's working.

Almost all interim HC shake things up, they have to

 

[Kingston]

Hard pass on Flores, and for a couple of reasons:
1.) he didn’t do good his last/only time out as an HC. It wasn’t a bonafide disaster, but 3 years no playoffs and a ton of internal strife. Flores, like DA is a great defensive mind but being a HC (as we saw with DA) takes different traits than just being a tactician. DA struggled to motivate and hold everyone accountable, Flores is able to motivate but overdoes the accountability part of the equation. He struggled to get along with his players, assistant coaches, ownership and tried to make a failed power play on his GM. He wasn’t on board with drafting Tua and practically set out to prove he was right by setting Tua up to fail. We don’t need the disfunction he would bring. Most of all we already tried a failed re-tread coach so no thanks on that.
2.) we are gonna be in the QB market for the next few drafts it is of paramount importance we line up the right coaches to support and grow whatever young QB we end up with. Flores drove out his OC every year he was on the job and I believe one year he fired 2 of them. We can’t afford the instability because as you can see with Bryce Young and now with Caleb Williams if you keep having to change out offensive staff you restrict the ability of your young QB to grown and learn.

The solution to this is to find a bright, young up and comming offensive assistant coach. This coach can be paired with whoever we draft and they can grow and learn together. Most importantly in a set up like that if we find success we don’t have to worry about getting our OC stolen away should we find successes with our young QB.

 

[St. Geezy]

Why does Rizzi being a ST guy know who is best to have in place?? We have no clue about Rizzi's talent evaluation skills. He's never been a NFL or major college OC or DC.

Neither was John Harbaugh. There are many different ways to skin the cat.

Lots of guys that have been NFL or major college OCs or DCs have failed. There is no one size fits all solution.

You vet out the best guy for your team through the interviews, not just the black and white past job titles, especially when talking about a coach that’s been in the league this long and also seems to always get instantly promoted to Assistant HC/Associate HC at his stops and players seem to look at as a HC type figure.

 

[Det. Brees]

Just as long as we don't pick a coach for all the wrong reasons, we should pick the coach on his merits, not on any other factor. This has been the downfall of many teams.

 

[SystemShock]

Can anyone name a head coach that was fired, then worked as a coordinator for some time before returning as a head coach that had real success the second time around? I'm not making a point here... I just can't think of any.

The only one I can think of is Belichick. Fired from the Browns, became DC in NE.

 

[DSnfla]

Neither was John Harbaugh. There are many different ways to skin the cat.

Lots of guys that have been NFL or major college OCs or DCs have failed. There is no one size fits all solution.

You vet out the best guy for your team through the interviews, not just the black and white past job titles, especially when talking about a coach that’s been in the league this long and also seems to always get instantly promoted to Assistant HC/Associate HC at his stops and players seem to look at as a HC type figure.

Like I've said , I do like Rizzi. It's just there is nothing to go on to tell if he knows the offensive or defensive side of the ball well enough to be an NFL HC, at least with a successful OC or DC you know that they know 1 of the 2 most important aspects of football.
Since way more HCs fail than are successful and almost all have been DCs or OCs then logic says that most of the ones that fail would have been OCs or DCs, in fact I'd say that about 90% are

John Harbaugh is an anomaly, one of a kind. Most of his experience is in ST, but not ALL.
You know as well as I do that Ast. HC title is used to hire away a coach to the same position to get around the lateral move thing the NFL has. And also to keep a coach from taking the same position with another team.

The last 7 games will tell if Rizzi is a serious HC candidate because it's his only real experience at this level other than ST.
As of right now for me Rizzi's biggest draw other than he is a firey guy is that face that he'd almost for sure keep Kubiak.
I'm just not ready to put my hopes in hiring a guy hoping for a 1 of a kind anomaly like Harbaugh

 

[DerrickB]

 

[jasonsw]

Flores would be a terrible hire and I'm tired of people only looking through the lens of head coach on their ability to call a defense or offense. As good he is at managing a defense. He's equally terrible at managing an offense just like Dennis.

You're just getting a better Dennis Allen.

Today's Miami game highlighted everything. He couldn't make Tua work. Other than concussions, Tua has been playing well since McDaniels took over.

 

[DerrickB]

I want a coach who the players respond to. They didn't respond to DA who has a very similar personality to Flores. Reid is the best in the game, who wouldn't want that? The Steelers have a system that allows them to develop/keep talent which we have tried to emulate, but chasing another ring in the twilight of Brees' career derailed that. There has been times fans have wanted Tomlin fired so he's not untouchable. He coaches for a team that is loyal to their coaches which goes with their system.

I guess you don't want a coach the players respond to since you're hell bent on replacing Rizzi.

Flores personality is nowhere near DA's.

 

[Snakehead]

Flores personality is nowhere near DA's.

Good DCs, bad HCs, hard on players they don't like and get rid of them. They are a lot a like. What he did to Tua should disqualify him from ever being a HC.

It doesn't matter, he won't be the next HC.