Opinion Brian Flores Is the only Defensive HC that should be considered by the Saints. The Vikings are not going to keep him past this yr. (1 Viewer)

[jasonsw]

Flores would be a terrible hire and I'm tired of people only looking through the lens of head coach on their ability to call a defense or offense. As good he is at managing a defense. He's equally terrible at managing an offense just like Dennis.

You're just getting a better Dennis Allen.

Today's Miami game highlighted everything. He couldn't make Tua work. Other than concussions, Tua has been playing well since McDaniels took over.

 

[DerrickB]

I want a coach who the players respond to. They didn't respond to DA who has a very similar personality to Flores. Reid is the best in the game, who wouldn't want that? The Steelers have a system that allows them to develop/keep talent which we have tried to emulate, but chasing another ring in the twilight of Brees' career derailed that. There has been times fans have wanted Tomlin fired so he's not untouchable. He coaches for a team that is loyal to their coaches which goes with their system.

I guess you don't want a coach the players respond to since you're hell bent on replacing Rizzi.

Flores personality is nowhere near DA's.

 

[Snakehead]

Flores personality is nowhere near DA's.

Good DCs, bad HCs, hard on players they don't like and get rid of them. They are a lot a like. What he did to Tua should disqualify him from ever being a HC.

It doesn't matter, he won't be the next HC.

 

[DerrickB]

Good DCs, bad HCs, hard on players they don't like and get rid of them. They are a lot a like. What he did to Tua should disqualify him from ever being a HC.

It doesn't matter, he won't be the next HC.

Not really but ok

 

[Taker597]

Not really but ok

I really don't know how anyone just ignore the Flores and Tua issues. I don't want Flores anywhere near a QB that needs development. Considering where we are at... He's not hirable since we'll probably drafting one sooner than later.

 

[DerrickB]

I really don't know how anyone just ignore the Flores and Tua issues. I don't want Flores anywhere near a QB that needs development. Considering where we are at... He's not hirable since we'll probably drafting one sooner than later.

I'm not ignoring them.

 

[DaveXA]

Taking the penalty, getting the stop...made the FG longer, and he misses it. Good coaching there.

 

[Kingston]

Today's Miami game highlighted everything. He couldn't make Tua work. Other than concussions, Tua has been playing well since McDaniels took over.

Exactally, it is about setting your young QB up with the right coaching. Tua looks great when he is healthy.

Look at the Panthers all of a sudden the light finally looks like it may have went on for Bryce Young. He now has a good coach that knows how to develop a QB. Think if they had did that from day 1. Essentially his development restarted at the beginning of this year (it got him benched) had they done it right the first time he would light years from where he is at now. Suddenly, it looks like he is having fun again playing football.

It’s why we need to be very careful in who we pick to be our coach and Flores is not the guy you want anywhere near a rookie QB.

 

[DaveXA]

Exactally, it is about setting your young QB up with the right coaching. Tua looks great when he is healthy.

Look at the Panthers all of a sudden the light finally looks like it may have went on for Bryce Young. He now has a good coach that knows how to develop a QB. Think if they had did that from day 1. Essentially his development restarted at the beginning of this year (it got him benched) had they done it right the first time he would light years from where he is at now. Suddenly, it looks like he is having fun again playing football.

It’s why we need to be very careful in who we pick to be our coach and Flores is not the guy you want anywhere near a rookie QB.

This is part of why I don't want Flores. I think we'll be looking to get one of the young QBs in there sooner than later and I want an offensive minded coach with experience working with and developing a young QB.

 

[SirLoinSaint64]

Too much drama and baggage.

 

[Big_L]

Today's Miami game highlighted everything. He couldn't make Tua work. Other than concussions, Tua has been playing well since McDaniels took over.

It's not that he couldn't make Tua work, he wanted Justin Herbert.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

Just say no.............................................................................to Flores.

 

[St. Geezy]

Like I've said , I do like Rizzi. It's just there is nothing to go on to tell if he knows the offensive or defensive side of the ball well enough to be an NFL HC, at least with a successful OC or DC you know that they know 1 of the 2 most important aspects of football.
Since way more HCs fail than are successful and almost all have been DCs or OCs then logic says that most of the ones that fail would have been OCs or DCs, in fact I'd say that about 90% are

John Harbaugh is an anomaly, one of a kind. Most of his experience is in ST, but not ALL.
You know as well as I do that Ast. HC title is used to hire away a coach to the same position to get around the lateral move thing the NFL has. And also to keep a coach from taking the same position with another team.

The last 7 games will tell if Rizzi is a serious HC candidate because it's his only real experience at this level other than ST.
As of right now for me Rizzi's biggest draw other than he is a firey guy is that face that he'd almost for sure keep Kubiak.
I'm just not ready to put my hopes in hiring a guy hoping for a 1 of a kind anomaly like Harbaugh

I just don’t agree with your point of view that someone being a special teams coach at this level means they don’t know football in general. You talk about special teams coaches like they’re complete imbeciles that don’t know ball nor are capable of learning.

Besides, like Harbaugh, you go with this model for the purposes of leadership, a “Leader of Men” model, and he leans on his coordinators to run the offense and defense.

 

[DSnfla]

I just don’t agree with your point of view that someone being a special teams coach at this level means they don’t know football in general. You talk about special teams coaches like they’re complete imbeciles that don’t know ball nor are capable of learning.

Besides, like Harbaugh, you go with this model for the purposes of leadership, a “Leader of Men” model, and he leans on his coordinators to run the offense and defense.

Most ST coaches are the firey in your face type of coaches and they are easy to like. I by no means think ST coaches are imbeciles. I prefer the next HC have more experience coaching offense or defense @ a high level which Rizzi has none.

Once again Harbaugh is an anomaly, a one of a kind. I'm all well and good with the " Leader of Men" type HC, in fact I think it's a must. But I'd prefer that he be that AND have experience coaching offense or defense at a high level.

Rizzi's fate will be determined in the 8 games he's HC. There is almost always a natural bump when a HC is fired for losing the locker room like DA was. If he goes 6-2 in those 8 games then he deserves serious consideration. For me, the biggest draw about Rizzi is that he will more than likely keep Kubiak. The players we have are built to run his offense, especially the OL and AK and Miller are perfect RBs for it as well. The whole offensive staff is one of the best in the league. Woods, I'm not sold on yet