COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) [over 150.000,000 US cases (est.), 6,422,520 US hospitilizations, 1,148,691 US deaths.] (3 Viewers)

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Arathrael said:
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That chart's metrics are done so in a way to make it look a lot worse than it is. While cases per 100k people is a common metric used in covid statistics the last couple years. I have never seen the metric, deaths per 2 million people used. They clearly didn't want to use deaths per 100k people because it wouldn't look as scary. Hell, deaths per 1 million people and they graph would be cut in half on the red side.

I would like to see that graph with equal metrics on both sides.
 
SaintInBucLand said:
That chart's metrics are done so in a way to make it look a lot worse than it is. While cases per 100k people is a common metric used in covid statistics the last couple years. I have never seen the metric, deaths per 2 million people used. They clearly didn't want to use deaths per 100k people because it wouldn't look as scary. Hell, deaths per 1 million people and they graph would be cut in half on the red side.

I would like to see that graph with equal metrics on both sides.
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There is maybe a small bit of truth…but understand that the point of the graph wasn’t to compare deaths to cases…it was to compare the deaths/cases in two different countries. You couldn’t as effectively do that but graphing deaths at 100,000.
 
When it comes to Covid, the United States specializes in denialism. Deny the human-to-human transmission of the virus when China’s first cases were publicized in late 2019. Deny that the virus is airborne. Deny the need for boosters across all adult age groups. There are many more examples, but now one stands out – learning from other countries.

In early 2020, with the major outbreak in the Lombardy region of Italy that rapidly and profoundly outstripped hospital resources and medical staffing, Americans expressed confidence that it won’t happen here. That it couldn’t happen here. And then it did.

Fast forward two years of the pandemic: the United Kingdom and Europe have provided five unmistakable warnings to America that a new surge was occurring.

Within weeks, each time, the United States experienced a new wave, some not as severe (such as with the Alpha variant), some worse (Delta and Omicron variants).

From this Covid track record over two years, it is palpable: what happens in the UK and Europe doesn’t stay in the UK and Europe…….

www.theguardian.com

Once again, America is in denial about signs of a fresh Covid wave | Eric Topol

In the past couple of weeks, UK, Germany, France and others are experiencing a new wave. The US should get ready
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Optimus Prime said:
When it comes to Covid, the United States specializes in denialism. Deny the human-to-human transmission of the virus when China’s first cases were publicized in late 2019. Deny that the virus is airborne. Deny the need for boosters across all adult age groups. There are many more examples, but now one stands out – learning from other countries.

In early 2020, with the major outbreak in the Lombardy region of Italy that rapidly and profoundly outstripped hospital resources and medical staffing, Americans expressed confidence that it won’t happen here. That it couldn’t happen here. And then it did.

Fast forward two years of the pandemic: the United Kingdom and Europe have provided five unmistakable warnings to America that a new surge was occurring.

Within weeks, each time, the United States experienced a new wave, some not as severe (such as with the Alpha variant), some worse (Delta and Omicron variants).

From this Covid track record over two years, it is palpable: what happens in the UK and Europe doesn’t stay in the UK and Europe…….

www.theguardian.com

Once again, America is in denial about signs of a fresh Covid wave | Eric Topol

In the past couple of weeks, UK, Germany, France and others are experiencing a new wave. The US should get ready
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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AT the same token, it's odd how their waves come back so fast. This feels like how up north Delta was still working through the US when Omicron showed up. Maybe this is the BA.2 version of Omicron in Europe, but we'll see. I expect it to come here, but will it be a major wave or not? we'll see. I do wonder why some European countries seem to spike so fast..
 
Goatman Saint said:
I thought .2 had been kicking around the us for a while
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yes and the percentage is growing. However, overall cases are going down, so we shall see if it becomes an issue or not.

covid.cdc.gov

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.
covid.cdc.gov

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www.who.int

Statement on Omicron sublineage BA.2

As part of its on-going work to track variants, WHO's Technical Advisory Group on SARS-CoV-2 Virus Evolution (TAG-VE) met yesterday to discuss the latest evidence on the Omicron variant of concern, including its sublineages BA.1 and BA.2.
www.who.int www.who.int

BA.2 differs from BA.1 in its genetic sequence, including some amino acid differences in the spike protein and other proteins. Studies have shown that BA.2 has a growth advantage over BA.1. Studies are ongoing to understand the reasons for this growth advantage, but initial data suggest that BA.2 appears inherently more transmissible than BA.1, which currently remains the most common Omicron sublineage reported. This difference in transmissibility appears to be much smaller than, for example, the difference between BA.1 and Delta. Further, although BA.2 sequences are increasing in proportion relative to other Omicron sublineages (BA.1 and BA.1.1), there is still a reported decline in overall cases globally.

Studies are evaluating the risk of reinfection with BA.2 compared to BA.1. Reinfection with BA.2 following infection with BA.1 has been documented, however, initial data from population-level reinfection studies suggest that infection with BA.1 provides strong protection against reinfection with BA.2, at least for the limited period for which data are available.
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We had stupid high BA.1 infections, so I think that helps us against BA.2. Not sure what Europe's previous and current waves are. Seems like a quick overlap.
 
I can't find good data on BA.2 in Europe. I see it said, but not in the data. Just Omicron. I think they just lifted restrictions while a wave was still going on, so of course it's going up.

We'll see how it is here in the coming months.
 
Saint_Ward said:
yes and the percentage is growing. However, overall cases are going down, so we shall see if it becomes an issue or not.

covid.cdc.gov

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.
covid.cdc.gov

1647566482330.png


www.who.int

Statement on Omicron sublineage BA.2

As part of its on-going work to track variants, WHO's Technical Advisory Group on SARS-CoV-2 Virus Evolution (TAG-VE) met yesterday to discuss the latest evidence on the Omicron variant of concern, including its sublineages BA.1 and BA.2.
www.who.int www.who.int


We had stupid high BA.1 infections, so I think that helps us against BA.2. Not sure what Europe's previous and current waves are. Seems like a quick overlap.
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That’s what I thought, thanks. I know there were people here in California that were talking of it when we came back after winter break. We were also having problems with the lateral flow tests we use as people would have to be well into the illness to show
Positive on random people, which our nurse wondered at the time if we weren’t seeing both omicron and the variant. Of course this was also
About the time I was getting sick of Covid and paid less attention
 
What is going on in South Korea. One of the highest vaccination rates in the world, mask usage existed there prior to covid and still very much a policy there yet they have spiked to over 600k cases a few days ago.
 
What a weird take

and how disrespectful to every restaurant (and business) that closed due to Covid
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Gordon Ramsay placed another order of attention this morning by claiming that a key impact of the COVID-19 pandemic was its getting rid of “crap” restaurants. As reported by the Guardian, speaking to Ed Balls (for unknown reasons) in the Radio Times, the chef said that while lockdowns had been “devastating the last two years ... I think what has been evident for all of us is the crap’s gone.”

A typically sweary provocation from the master of the art and little more. Well, not quite, because Ramsay’s definition of “crap” went on not just to bolster his argument, but to consign irony to its grave forevermore:

“Well, just sheetholes in a prime position and taking advantage because they’re in a great location, and they’ve got the footfall. But now we’ve wiped the slate clean, which is good,” he said............

MSN

www.msn.com
 
SaintInBucLand said:
What is going on in South Korea. One of the highest vaccination rates in the world, mask usage existed there prior to covid and still very much a policy there yet they have spiked to over 600k cases a few days ago.
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Sounds like omicron (or the new omicron) - vax status and cloth/paper masks don't mean much any more (in terms of case numbers).
 
bonnjer said:
We didn't get our summer wave last year until beginning of July. Should be interesting to see if we start with a wave before then.
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Colorado and New York are slowly starting to pick up.
 

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