COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) [over 150.000,000 US cases (est.), 6,422,520 US hospitilizations, 1,148,691 US deaths.]

[jahsoul357]

Over quoting, but a lot going on here.

Let's start by saying it is pretty obvious that people who aren't vaccinated carry a higher risk of death or complications, all other things being equal.

However, the point about hundreds of thousands avoiding the vaccine and choosing death is a bit harder to prove, since so many died of (or with) covid19 before vaccines were available. Especially in the 65+ age group. So, it's also suspect to try to use their high vaccination rates NOW as any kind of argument about effectiveness THEN, when it wasn't an option.

I think jahsoul could have done a better job explaining their point. It was incredibly ambiguous. If the point is that now, over 55 years of age has the highest overall vaccination rates, and younger folks tend to be lower, and under 55 age group hasn't had hundreds of thousands of confirmed covid19 deaths... ok, sure. Many people still refusing may be in an age cohort where the risk is low to them. But many age groups are hovering in the 10+% of total deaths range. Younger is still like 6-7%? (In my head, I should actually calculate it).

What I was going for is we really can't make COVID deaths a black and white. To say that hundreds of thousands of people have died avoiding the vaccine goes against all available data and I only brought up vaccination rate to show the fact that we can't make that a definitive statement when the group that is being hit the hardest is also this nations most vaccinated. This isn't to say that there weren't people in that demographic avoiding the shot but in 2021, they would have had a higher probability of being vaccinated than not. The problem is, we will never know because the CDC is too busy spoon feeding us rates while the UK is providing both rates and raw data in a palatable format every week.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

Mayor Avegno is dropping out of KDV. Not sure what it means for the rest of MG but I guess she painted herself in a corner with the new mask mandate and scare tactics

Krewe du Vieux to 'scale down' 2022 parade, Avegno drops out

According to a post on the krewe’s Facebook page, the parade will have to largely skip the Marigny rectangle.

www.wwltv.com

 

[bonnjer]

I guess regular ol' Omicron BA.1 just wasn't good enough.

New Omicron Offshoot BA.2 Arrives In U.S. After Spreading In U.K., Denmark, India

Just as the Omicron wave may have broken across the U.S. comes word of another version of the more transmissible variant, dubbed BA.2. It’s been nicknamed by some “stealth Omicron” because it seems to evade identification better than its predecessor. While other new variants that seemed...

www.yahoo.com

 

[superchuck500]

 

[efil4stnias]

Welp, 2 years into Covid 19, we ( family ) has first case. Oldest tested positive last night. It was inevitable. Should rename Omicron to Thanos.

 

[livefromDC]

What I was going for is we really can't make COVID deaths a black and white. To say that hundreds of thousands of people have died avoiding the vaccine goes against all available data and I only brought up vaccination rate to show the fact that we can't make that a definitive statement when the group that is being hit the hardest is also this nations most vaccinated. This isn't to say that there weren't people in that demographic avoiding the shot but in 2021, they would have had a higher probability of being vaccinated than not. The problem is, we will never know because the CDC is too busy spoon feeding us rates while the UK is providing both rates and raw data in a palatable format every week.

That's not how numbers work. Let's say there's an outbreak of jubilation in the Superdome on gameday causing people to obstinately do the wave. For some reason, the upper level is hit the hardest with a lot more people participating uncontrollably. Having a beer effectively stops a person from participating in the wave. To stop the madness, the team sends out beer vendors, opting to send more beer venders to the upper level because that's the population most affected.

The top level is the most vulnerable population still despite a proven remedy. Even with the top level consuming the most beer, it doesn't affect the those who haven't had a beer because again, it's still the most vulnerable population. And since this was the group hardest hit by wave excitement, those we eschew having a beer still succumb to the wave.

Keep in mind that while the top level was the first and most often group to get beer, the superdome released beer to all other groups shortly after thereby limiting the spread of the wave in those levels that weren't hit as hard as the upper level seats.

But there's more! As people drink a beer and not do the wave or only partially participate in the wave halfheartedly a couple times before realizing, "this is silly", we can see the results of this happening right in front of us. Despite that, there's a couple of people in each section, some holding a beer and sitting safely in their seat, saying, "how do we know beer is helping?"

All silliness aside, the incidence of severe infection is much higher in unvaccinated populations. The data released by CDC shows this. The vaccine protects more people, but the elderly are still the most vulnerable population especially if they are unvaccinated.

 

[nolaswede]

In Ontario our mandates are still in effect.

Yes and no IMO! We definitely could have reduced the death rate in the U.S. However, unfortunately we, as a population, in the U.S. are not healthy enough to reduce it like Norway and Denmark etc. I wish we were, but we are in a bad situation!


Just chatted with my friend in Norway. He said that a lot of people are getting Omicron right now, but very few people are getting sick, due to(Omicron, Vaccine and people are generally very healthy)! So they are easing on the restaurant restrictions etc!

 

[superchuck500]

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Some here aren't gonna like this data..Even if it only Ms.

 

[superchuck500]

Some here aren't gonna like this data..Even if it only Ms.

Note it’s from 12/24/21 through 1/20/2022 - so we can assume this data reflects the situation for omicron.

 

[Tapxe]

I won't claim to understand this, but it seems a pretty significant discovery.

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein activates human endogenous retroviruses in blood cells

Transposable elements, or jumping genes, are now known to be responsible for many human diseases. Keeping them repressed by methylation, RNA binding, or the attentions of the innate immune system is a full-time jump for cells.

phys.org

A key finding in these studies is that not all COVID patients had significant HERV-W ENV activation; only 20 or 30 percent of them did. This finding likely reflects an underlying genetic susceptibility among the infected that absolutely needs to be defined and taken into account, particularly if HERV-W is going to be used as a general marker for disease severity, or as a therapeutic target for a humanized monoclonal antibody therapy, as is now envisioned.

 

[itztime]

Does anyone ever get told what variant they have? I know everyone that I know that has caught Covid of late, with formal testing is not told what variant they have.

Thinking out loud it would seem only right to let the individual know, since it is pumped into the brain that Omicron is not bad, so a positive patient goes home and thinks that the worse can be flu like symptoms. This causing the assumption they do not need to follow up with a doctor or perhaps seek a "mab" treatment as "oh well it is Omicron". Essentially a person thinking all is well could end up an ICU or perhaps little too late with death because they thought they had the less severity strain. The CDC did misstep and admit that there were more Delta cases than originally thought at the beginning of the Omicron breakout. Also knowing that only a few "mab" treatments work for Omicron.

 

[brandon8283]

Does anyone ever get told what variant they have? I know everyone that I know that has caught Covid of late, with formal testing is not told what variant they have.

Thinking out loud it would seem only right to let the individual know, since it is pumped into the brain that Omicron is not bad, so a positive patient goes home and thinks that the worse can be flu like symptoms. This causing the assumption they do not need to follow up with a doctor or perhaps seek a "mab" treatment as "oh well it is Omicron". Essentially a person thinking all is well could end up an ICU or perhaps little too late with death because they thought they had the less severity strain. The CDC did misstep and admit that there were more Delta cases than originally thought at the beginning of the Omicron breakout. Also knowing that only a few "mab" treatments work for Omicron.

Delta is all but gone. Pretty much all infections today are Omicron.

That said, on of my mom's old college friends, in her early 50s, died on Sunday, presumably from Omicron. So if you're not boosted, you should be taking it seriously regardless.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Do the tests provide that info, or is that something that is analyzed after?