COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (8 Viewers)

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Yeah, small sample sizes can give you weird results sometimes. That could be what is going on at that prison in Ohio. Or it could be that prisoners are younger and healthier than I would have imagined. Of course, depending on the type of prison you would expect a fairly young population, but I would also not expect that population to be particularly healthy like the crew of a U.S. Navy vessel.

That is confusing to me. How is it that they can test 4000 sailors on an aircraft carrier in no time flat and the folks in a prison in no time flat?

And yet, they cannot get enough testing supplies for Ochsner Medical Center where patients are incredibly sick????!!!!!
 
That is confusing to me. How is it that they can test 4000 sailors on an aircraft carrier in no time flat and the folks in a prison in no time flat?

And yet, they cannot get enough testing supplies for Ochsner Medical Center where patients are incredibly sick????!!!!!

govt vs private sector
 
Frustration is mounting as more families across the U.S. enter their second or even third week of distance learning — and some overwhelmed parents say it will be their last.

Amid the barrage of learning apps, video meet-ups and e-mailed assignments that pass as pandemic home school, some frustrated and exhausted parents are choosing to disconnect entirely for the rest of the academic year.

Others are cramming all their children’s school work into the weekend or taking days off work to help their kids with a week’s worth of assignments in one day.

“We tried to make it work the first week. We put together a schedule, and what we found is that forcing a child who is that young into a fake teaching situation is really, really hard,” said Alexandra Nicholson, whose son is in kindergarten in a town outside Boston.

“I’d rather have him watch classic Godzilla movies and play in the yard and pretend to be a Jedi rather than figure out basic math.”

That stress is only compounded for families with multiple children in different grades, or when parents work long hours outside the home. In some cases, older siblings must watch younger ones during the day, leaving no time for school work............

Perhaps America will have a new appreciation for the job good teachers do. Probably not, but it's a nice hope of mine.
 
That is confusing to me. How is it that they can test 4000 sailors on an aircraft carrier in no time flat and the folks in a prison in no time flat?

And yet, they cannot get enough testing supplies for Ochsner Medical Center where patients are incredibly sick????!!!!!

To be sure, I believe it took several days to test all of the sailors. I haven't followed up since shortly after the story broke. That didn't happen overnight.

I didn't follow the prison story but they hadn't tested everyone there last time I saw it.

I do believe in both cases they had to order enough kits to do the testing, although I don't know all of the details.
 
Possibly, but it's a flawed and incomplete study that doesn't cut across a broad enough sample of the general population. All it is is a starting point. We will need a lot more data before we can draw so solid conclusions based on these kind of studies imo.

While we do not have a conclusive study, anecdotal evidence along with the studies we do have are all suggesting an infection rate many times the rate of what we have officially recorded. Common sense would arguably tell you that alone. I know it's the general consensus among the health care professionals I know along with the biologist in my family.

Fwiw, the hospital where my wife works is transitioning to a more normal mode of business. The advanced practice nurses that were assigned to manage the Covid ICUs are being sent back to their normal positions. Likewise for the nurses in the ER that were reassigned. The new challenge will likely be the burst of procedures from the backlog created.
That is confusing to me. How is it that they can test 4000 sailors on an aircraft carrier in no time flat and the folks in a prison in no time flat?

And yet, they cannot get enough testing supplies for Ochsner Medical Center where patients are incredibly sick????!!!!!

What makes you say that Ochsner doesn't have enough tests?
 
So Georgia wants to open back up, but their curve hasn't really started dipping yet? Sounds like a good plan.

Depends... are we talking about Fulton County GA (Atlanta area) where their have been 2000+ confirmed cases? Or are we talking about Taliaferro County GA just 50 miles away (between Atlanta and Augusta) where their have been 0 confirmed cases...? because there is a huge difference.

Not picking on you, but there really needs to be perspective in these discussions... blanket assumptions be damned.
 
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Depends... are we talking about Fulton County GA (Atlanta area) where their have been 2000+ confirmed cases? Or are we talking about Taliaferro County GA just 50 miles away (between Atlanta and Augusta) where their have been 0 confirmed cases... because there is a huge difference.

Not picking on you, but there really needs to be perspective in these discussions... blanket assumptions be damned.
Oh, I understand, but if they're opening up the state, that includes the worst impacted areas and that will spread. It just doesn't seem like the best time for them, yet.
 
Oh, I understand, but if they're opening up the state, that includes the worst impacted areas and that will spread. It just doesn't seem like the best time for them, yet.

Sounds like it will be a step 1 ("Phase One” - having adequate testing, hospital capacity, and contact tracing of the virus ) measured approach that includes doubling testing and would require companies to implement changes to ensure sanitation mandates and social distancing ... and not just business as usual...


Also, the point I was making was... Georgia has 159 counties... Of which, about 150 have had less than (or far less than) 200 confirmed cases... this also has to be considered when we "re-open a state's economy".
 
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While we do not have a conclusive study, anecdotal evidence along with the studies we do have are all suggesting an infection rate many times the rate of what we have officially recorded. Common sense would arguably tell you that alone. I know it's the general consensus among the health care professionals I know along with the biologist in my family.

Fwiw, the hospital where my wife works is transitioning to a more normal mode of business. The advanced practice nurses that were assigned to manage the Covid ICUs are being sent back to their normal positions. Likewise for the nurses in the ER that were reassigned. The new challenge will likely be the burst of procedures from the backlog created.


What makes you say that Ochsner doesn't have enough tests?

I read about on SR......and SR never lies ?
 
Here is the best update I have seen on the drugs that are being looked at


so far, remdesivir looks like the best as far as how effective it has been and how close it would be to getting distributed

Remdesivir was recently given on a compassionate-use basis to 53 critically ill patients hospitalized in the U.S., Europe, Canada and Japan. Clinical improvement was observed in 68% of the patients treated, according to an analysis published in The New England Journal of Medicine. Each patient was given at least one dose of remdesivir and evaluated during a median follow-up of 18 days. According to the study results, 36 patients (68%) had an improvement in oxygen-support class, including 17 of 30 patients (57%) receiving mechanical ventilation who were extubated. A total of 25 patients (47%) were discharged, and 7 patients (13%) died; mortality was 18% (6 of 34) among patients receiving invasive ventilation and 5% (1 of 19) among those not receiving invasive ventilation.

I don't have the link, but a little while back I read that less than 33% of those that got on a respirator lived....dunno how accurate that is but achieving 68% among patients that are already critical seems like it is very effective.

In Italy it was closer to 1/10th of the people Intubated lived.
 
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