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Texas Lt Govenor Dan Patrick doubles down on his comments from a month ago that vulnerable people should take care of themselves and deal with the consequences of everything remaining open.

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick praises economic restart, says ‘there are more important things than living’

AUSTIN -- A month after Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick faced backlash for suggesting the economy reopen while older people fend for themselves amid the coronavirus...
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“And what I said when I was with you that night, there are more important things than living and that’s saving this country for my children and my grandchildren and saving this country for all of us,” said Patrick, who at age 70 is among the older Americans at higher risk of developing severe cases of COVID-19. “I don’t want to die, nobody wants to die, but we (have) got to take some risk and get back in the game and get this country back up and running.”
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gboudx said:
Texas Lt Govenor Dan Patrick doubles down on his comments from a month ago that vulnerable people should take care of themselves and deal with the consequences of everything remaining open.

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick praises economic restart, says ‘there are more important things than living’

AUSTIN -- A month after Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick faced backlash for suggesting the economy reopen while older people fend for themselves amid the coronavirus...
www.dallasnews.com
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I would just tell him, "you first." But, eff that guy.
 
I can't wait until there are accessible antibody tests. I want my daughter to take one...or better yet our whole family. I highly suspect my daughter had it early march. Best case scenario is she had it and the rest of us were asymptomatic. Probably a reach but I'd love to know. My oldest had a wicked sore throat shortly after my daughter was sick but that was it...no other symptoms really. It's a pipe dream but I'd like to satisfy my curiosity as soon as tests are available.
 
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I don't even think Trump actually wants to rush to open up. The phased guidelines that he issued and touted aren't that and it's clear that most states haven't even reached those phases. But, he's a politician. He wants to have his cake and eat it to so he issues reasonable guidelines and then makes Tweets in support of radical protesters (who form a good chunk of his base voters) while never actually doing anything to support those protesters.
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Yup. This is what a lot of people are missing. He's playing both sides, which he is pretty good at. He isn't rushing to open anything anytime soon.

Abbott is doing the same thing here. He's got low-information people like this new guy on this thread thinking that he's a Republican patriot and is opening up the state omglol! All he's doing in phase 1 is allowing non-essential retail to open for curbside service, and opening state parks and a few other things. No restaurants, no bars, no schools, no public gatherings, etc. Phase 2 is TBD somewhere down the line - left intentionally vague. Nothing is really changing here.

Back to Trump, his administration continues to mostly put out guidance to keep things shut down, whilst he writes nebulous "LIBERATE MICHIGAN" tweets that do nothing except get morons to think he's on their side, all while his government is basically saying "keep most stuff shut down".

The way he is playing this is one of the very, very few times I've been impressed by Trump. He's playing it really well.
 
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Yes, and that's likely where it will end up once the majority of Americans have been legitimately tested (if ever) IMO.... The issue is... less than %1 have been tested... and I would think most of those %1 were experiencing symptoms when tested... So some of the initial tested numbers are lopsided....

But as has been said many times.... the rate of mortality is proportional to how insanely easy it is to spread this virus from person to person, and the fact that there is no known vaccine...

If half of US population gets the virus... that's 1.65 million deaths at %1 mortality rate nation wide. And that rate may go up should they all get it in short order and hospitals can't keep up.... Perspective is key on this...

We can't eradicate it right now... but we can slow it to keep the healthcare system from getting swamped....

That's why re-opening things has to be balanced, and based on local conditions.... there is no "one size fits all" here.
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Info - I find myself agreeing with a lot of your takes on this thread even though I suspect we're on opposite ends of the political spectrum. However, I think it's extraordinarily unlikely that there are 55 unconfirmed cases for every 1 case. That would mean that 1 in 6 Americans has had it. There's just absolutely no way that's the case.
 
PSA re: PPP loans

I actually did receive a PPP loan and was funded five days ago. It went into a new business account I set up (separate from my primary business checking account). I didn't see it because I hadn't linked the account to my online profile yet, and for some really bizarre reason the lender just put the money in my account without any sort of heads up of "hey, we just deposited a big check into your account".

I ran it through PayPal (I legitimately applied to at least eight lenders) which I guess sends out to WebBank as a third party. They were unresponsive to questions. But I applied April 14, got an email asking for a couple of supporting documents (w9, tax returns, etc.) that same day, sent said docs right back to them, and was funded April 16.

So for those of you guys with small businesses, might be worth a try.

Heads up - they only funded me for my payroll compensation, not my K1 distributions or retirement contributions which account for more than half of my annual compensation. So if you are S-Corp and want to make sure you get every penny you can, maybe pick another route. But at this point I'm happy to get anything. This next $250mm is going to go just as fast and it's going to be just as corrupt.
 
arstechnica.com

CDC’s failed coronavirus tests were tainted with coronavirus, feds confirm

A federal investigation found CDC researchers not following protocol.
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Don't just read the headline. It's an interesting case about how early testing failures likely lead to use blowing any chance of containment.

As the new coronavirus took root across America, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sent states tainted test kits in early February that were themselves seeded with the virus, federal officials have confirmed.

The contamination made the tests uninterpretable, and—because testing is crucial for containment efforts—it lost the country invaluable time to get ahead of the advancing pandemic.

The CDC had been vague about what went wrong with the tests, initially only saying that “a problem in the manufacturing of one of the reagents” had led to the failure. Subsequent reporting suggested that the problem was with a negative control—that is, a part of the test meant to be free of any trace of the coronavirus as a critical reference for confirming that the test was working properly overall.

Now, according to investigation results reported by The New York Times, federal officials confirm that sloppy laboratory practices at two of three CDC labs involved in the tests’ creation led to contamination of the tests and their uninterpretable results.

“Just tragic”

Shortly after the problems became apparent in early February, the Food and Drug Administration sent Timothy Stenzel, chief of in vitro diagnostics and radiological health, to the CDC to investigate what was going wrong. According to the Times, he found a lack of coordination and inexperience in commercial manufacturing.

Problems that led to the contamination included researchers coming and going from labs working on the test kits without changing their coats and researchers sharing lab space to both assemble test components and handle samples containing the coronavirus.
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