COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (2 Viewers)

[StudioSaint]

That may explain why, since Friday afternoon, every time my wife revs up the microwave, I piss my pants and forget who I am for about half an hour.

Wait!? You mean that doesn't happen to everyone?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Reopening restaurants is going well (language warning)

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None of those people were social distancing

 

[N.O.Bronco]

Context is everything. The government is requiring that you give your personal information to eat at a restaurant. The government is requiring that a private place of business obtain this information and retain it in order to provide it to the government. I've never eaten out under those conditions, to my knowledge. And I won't eat at a restaurant under those conditions.

We will have a new baby some time this week or next so I don't know if I will eat out any time soon anyway. But if it were to be in Orleans, I'd use a pseudonym and pay cash.

This is quite simply going too far. I can see making a request that people participate in such a practice. But to make it into a requirement, even if unenforceable? That's just wrong.

There is literally zero chance you haven’t given up far more of your privacy to private companies(or the government) than what is being asked of you here. I mean I presume you are using an ISP or cell phone correct? Which now has the legal authority to sell your data to the highest bidder(presuming they meet some incredibly arbitrary and meaningless standards).

To finally draw a line when this, by all accounts, will only be relevant or used for keeping your fellow human beings alive is all kinds of messed up. I mean what is the government going to do with your restaurant habits for a few months? You think they go over the line after this is over? Get out int he streets and then vote them out.

 

[St. Widge]

Context is everything. The government is requiring that you give your personal information to eat at a restaurant. The government is requiring that a private place of business obtain this information and retain it in order to provide it to the government. I've never eaten out under those conditions, to my knowledge. And I won't eat at a restaurant under those conditions.

We will have a new baby some time this week or next so I don't know if I will eat out any time soon anyway. But if it were to be in Orleans, I'd use a pseudonym and pay cash.

This is quite simply going too far. I can see making a request that people participate in such a practice. But to make it into a requirement, even if unenforceable? That's just wrong.

I mean, given that you can lie to them, it pretty much so is voluntary.

Like I said, it makes me uncomfortable too, but in the end I really doubt they will use the information for anything other than contact tracing and given the general level of competence of our government, I doubt they will even use it for that. And they already have a lot more than you name and phone number anyway. Hell, they could use the crime cameras to track people by their licenses plates or put out photos of people who were in an area with an infection. (I find that much more disturbing.)

It's not ideal, but it's better than doing it at every business and in the end, you really don't have to do it since you can give them a fake name and number if you choose not to do something to help with contact tracing. And, as has been mentioned before, this is less intrusive than them just getting a warrant, or not bothering to get a warrant based on exigent circumstances, to get the information from any number of other sources like your mobile phone, debit card, GPS in your car, etc.

I get the principle of it all, but I'm finding it really hard to get worked up over giving a restaurant my name and phone number which I have done many times in the past.

But, I'm curious, do you answer the Census?

Also, LaToya mentioned that the Archdioses will be having people register on line and reserve spots to go the Mass? And while they are not required to make those lists or keep them, she noted that those lists could be used to contact trace if necessary. I assume this has been agreed to by the Archbishop, but I'm not certain. So, will you be attending Mass?

Finally, I do you think some right is being unconstitutionally violated? If so, which one?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Context is everything. The government is requiring that you give your personal information to eat at a restaurant. The government is requiring that a private place of business obtain this information and retain it in order to provide it to the government. I've never eaten out under those conditions, to my knowledge. And I won't eat at a restaurant under those conditions.

We will have a new baby some time this week or next so I don't know if I will eat out any time soon anyway. But if it were to be in Orleans, I'd use a pseudonym and pay cash.

This is quite simply going too far. I can see making a request that people participate in such a practice. But to make it into a requirement, even if unenforceable? That's just wrong.

If you don’t want to dine in under those condition, cool - that’s your choice. And you have alternatives

lying as a way to get around the bruising of your philosophy is not cool, it doesn’t help anyone, and it could hurt people- your family included (not super likely, but still)

 

[mattgdg]

Things like that video make me wonder how it is that we survived to be the dominant species on the planet. Dinosaurs wouldn't act like that.

I bet Stegosaurus was the dinosaur version of Karen.

 

[Bill]

give me the raptor and I'll give you 100:1 odds.

I wasn't choosing side for a dogfight.

 

[Brennan77]

It's no different for me, pretty much every meal I eat the IRS can request a receipt for it. That and there are literally hundreds of companies that can tell you what you like to eat, when you like to eat, what days you like to eat, whether you prefer to eat before or after you masterbate, what kind of porn you like to watch, how much money you make, how much you spend, how much you save, your credit score, credit history, who your relatives and friends are and everywhere you've been the last 5 years and you probably have at least 3 devices in your house that you paid for to support this practice. I mean, I appreciate that people are suddenly worried about privacy but find it quite odd that writing your name on a piece of paper during a pandemic is where so many are drawing the line.

You don't have to provide your receipts if you aren't writing off the expense, which is something completely different. I don't draw the line at writing my name on a piece a paper and I think you know that. I draw the line at government compulsion, and it's a pretty darned good place to draw it frankly. If I didn't say it, I'd probably participate if it were voluntary.

 

[superchuck500]

Just gonna leave this here. I don't know, who the fork knows anymore.

 

[bclemms]

Also, I don't look at porn.

Are you one of those freaks that just likes to listen?

 

[St. Widge]

Also, I don't look at porn. It's vile and harmful to yourself and society. Plus the website probably sells your activity data.

Porn is vile and harmful to yourself and society, but refusing to give your name and phone number, or lying about it, to avoid helping the government contact trace during a pandemic isn't vile and harmful to yourself and society?

 

[superchuck500]

Okay so for those playing at home, tonight's thread de-railing will be: porn versus contact tracing.

If you had that on your card, you can collect your prize at the SR Shop link above.

 

[DaveXA]

Just gonna leave this here. I don't know, who the fork knows anymore.

Crazy. Feels like we keep finding more about this than we knew was out there. I'm wondering why we're only hearing about this many cases in children now? Did other countries like China, Korea and Italy not have this going on in children there? Such a head scratcher.

 

[bclemms]

Crazy. Feels like we keep finding more about this than we knew was out there. I'm wondering why we're only hearing about this many cases in children now? Did other countries like China, Korea and Italy not have this going on in children there? Such a head scratcher.

Yes but it appears to be increasing in frequency. Question becomes, is it increasing in frequency or is it simply increasing because of the case load expansion?

 

[DaveXA]

Yes but it appears to be increasing in frequency. Question becomes, is it increasing in frequency or is it simply increasing because of the case load expansion?

Good question. I have a theory. Actually a couple. One, the relative health of the kids. That's purely a guess, and I tend to think it's not that.

The other, which I would ne be surprised at is the virus is beginning to act differently, and manifest with some different symptoms. Maybe it's mutating or something. I'm not sure, but it seems different than what's been reported in other countries.