COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (5 Viewers)

[bonnjer]

How is it constitutional to force someone to wear a particular piece of garment? Not saying I wouldn’t, when I leave, my mask is on but if you break it down, people are bing forced to wear something. I am curious what other think.

I think someone else mentioned this in a post earlier, but aren't we "forced" to wear a seat belt?

 

[Eeyore]

I think someone else mentioned this in a post earlier, but aren't we "forced" to wear a seat belt?

We willingly get into cars.

 

[superchuck500]

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finally

 

[Eeyore]

It's almost like the for profit places are putting profits over people.

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[Eeyore]

 

[James Spader]

I think someone else mentioned this in a post earlier, but aren't we "forced" to wear a seat belt?

We are in order to drive.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

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We aren't talking about no service. I don't think anyone denies a private company has that right to demand you wear a mask in their establishment.

I think the question is does the government have the right to require you wear one?

 

[B4YOU]

I think another very useful number would be a state by state tracker on how many positive tests are coming back per state as a percentage of total tests administered per state. If a state were to double total tests overnight, would their positive cases also double or would there be a lower percentage of positives but a higher raw number of new cases?
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Here you go. https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

 

[DaveXA]

Would you get arrested for going out with no clothes?

It's really no different.

Would you get arrested for wearing pants the wrong way? Because I'm sure a lot of people will wear masks the wrong way, like on their necks instead of over their nose and mouth. Hmmm.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

We aren't talking about no service. I don't think anyone denies a private company has that right to demand you wear a mask in their establishment.

I think the question is does the government have the right to require you wear one?

Go outside and find the first cop car or playground you can, start swinging your dick around and let me know if the government has the legal right to arrest you or tell you to wear an article of clothing or not.

Also, this:

US town bans saggy pants

Low-hanging, baggy trousers may get you respect on the streets but they could also land you with a six-month prison sentence in one US town.

www.theguardian.com

If the argument in favor of mandatory clothing laws is predicated on social decency, something without actual physical harm to a person, I would imagine the difficulty in arguing that actually putting others lives at risk during a pandemic, thus predicating an article of clothing be temporarily worn in public, is going to be a tough contradiction to square.

I welcome people to step up to the challenge though..Should be entertaining at least. I *states my name* understands you can’t be allowed to be naked at the local public park, but also, somehow you have zero right to tell me to wear a mask in that same public park to stop the potential spread of a deadly disease with no vaccine....

 

[DaveXA]

We aren't talking about no service. I don't think anyone denies a private company has that right to demand you wear a mask in their establishment.

I think the question is does the government have the right to require you wear one?

I'd argue no. Because that's a state/local matter for the most part. Generally speaking, if I'm walking the neighborhood with my dog or riding my bike, I'm not gonna wear a mask. If I'm driving my car, I'm not gonna wear a mask. If I walk into a business, I'm gonna wear a mask regardless of requirements or lack thereof. Where it gets tricky is gatherings in public spaces. I don't know. I'm not gonna be a part of those gatherings. Too risky.

It's a good question though.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Would you get arrested for wearing pants the wrong way? Because I'm sure a lot of people will wear masks the wrong way, like on their necks instead of over their nose and mouth. Hmmm.

Cut your pants like this and go walk around the neighborhood a bit and report back on how it goes. No pics please.

 

[DaveXA]

Go outside and find the first cop car or playground you can, start swinging your dick around and let me know if the government has the legal right to arrest you or tell you to wear an article of clothing or not.

Also, this:

US town bans saggy pants

Low-hanging, baggy trousers may get you respect on the streets but they could also land you with a six-month prison sentence in one US town.

www.theguardian.com

If the argument in favor of mandatory clothing laws is predicated on social decency, something without actual physical harm to a person, I would imagine the difficulty in arguing that actually putting others lives at risk during a pandemic is going to be a tough contradiction to square.

Ah, no, that's not an equivalent comparison. You're talking about state/local ordinances that govern people wearing clothes. Some places allow topless at the beach, while others allow nudity in certain situations.

I view mask wearing in a similar vein. It's a state/local issue. Federal has no enforcement power unless it's on federal property when it comes to what we wear.

 

[superchuck500]

I think another very useful number would be a state by state tracker on how many positive tests are coming back per state as a percentage of total tests administered per state. If a state were to double total tests overnight, would their positive cases also double or would there be a lower percentage of positives but a higher raw number of new cases?

The total number of people who exhibit no symptoms after testing positive is not an easy number to pin down, but I have seen some numbers up in the 50-70% range and a recent report of over 80%. (The accuracy of tests is always a concern in any of this.) I would also assume that some people are being tested because they do have symptoms of something and some of those come back positive.

Nearly 700 Lansing inmates test positive for COVID-19; 86% show no symptoms

The Kansas Department of Corrections says it has finished testing all inmates at the Lansing Correctional Facility and found 86% of those who tested positive for COVID-19 showed no symptoms of the virus.

www.kshb.com

Asymptomatic spread makes COVID-19 tough to contain

Immunologist Gigi Gronvall discusses the challenges of tracing the spread of coronavirus, the importance of testing, and the dangerous appeal of "immunity passports"

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The STAT tracker site has the testing info on the regular (non-mobile) version.

It’s probably on the mobile somewhere.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

Ah, no, that's not an equivalent comparison. You're talking about state/local ordinances that govern people wearing clothes. Some places allow topless at the beach, while others allow nudity in certain situations.

I view mask wearing in a similar vein. It's a state/local issue. Federal has no enforcement power unless it's on federal property when it comes to what we wear.

The conversation stemmed from the New Mexico governor mandating masks.

Plenty of states have indecent exposure laws. The forum this site resides in being one of them. Including state laws regarding simply mentioning direct sexual acts. Certain cities even went so far as to ban baggy pants here(link in the previous post).

If you want to make the case that swinging your dick on bourbon is a moral hazard but not refusing to put on a mask during a pandemic that is costing thousands of people their lives a day, feel free.

Like I said, I’m down for the entertainment.