COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (6 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

Come on guys. That’s one instance reported and i haven’t heard of many other instances. Don’t be dramatic like the whole country is against Asians now.

It's one of many that happens with greater frequency than you might think. But if you're not Asian, you probably wouldn't understand.

It's certainly not the entire country, but it happens in a lot of places.

 

[Andrus]

Trump, Congress agree on $2 trillion virus rescue bill

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House and Senate leaders of both parties announced agreement early Wednesday on unprecedented emergency legislation to rush sweeping aid to businesses, workers and a health care system slammed by the coronavirus pandemic.

apnews.com

Deal finally struck.

 

[Get in the Carr]

But it's one of many that happens with greater frequency than you might think. But if you're not Asian, you probably wouldn't understand.

It's certainly not the entire country, but it happens in a lot of places.

How do you know that? What frequency? You think American people in China are getting treated better?

You wouldn’t know because they control the media. Have you read what they are pushing about Americans over there?

 

[DaveXA]

How do you know that? What frequency? You think American people in China are getting treated better?

You wouldn’t know because they control the media. Have you read what they are pushing about Americans over there?

I know because my wife is Asian. And I have 4 grown kids who have dealt with that to varying degrees over the years. I've seen enough sideways glances and weird looks to last a lifetime. If you don't think that happens much, you're either naive or just don't care.

Regardless, I've made my point. You don't have to agree with it, but I've seen it frequently enough to know there are plenty of bigots out there.

 

[Dago]

How do you know that? What frequency? You think American people in China are getting treated better?

You wouldn’t know because they control the media. Have you read what they are pushing about Americans over there?

How does what they say about Americans mean a damned thing? Do you base your treatment of others on what people in other countries are doing?

 

[Dago]

Trump, Congress agree on $2 trillion virus rescue bill

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House and Senate leaders of both parties announced agreement early Wednesday on unprecedented emergency legislation to rush sweeping aid to businesses, workers and a health care system slammed by the coronavirus pandemic.

apnews.com

Deal finally struck.

Lets hope that it actually helps people unlike the last time our government did a stimulus plan

 

[Get in the Carr]

I know because my wife is Asian. And I have 4 grown kids who have dealt with that to varying degrees over the years. I've seen enough sideways glances and weird looks to last a lifetime. If you don't think that happens much, you're either naive or just don't care.

Regardless, I've made my point. You don't have to agree with it, but I've seen it frequently enough to know there are plenty of bigots out there.

Exactly. I don’t agree with it. I just think you’re sights are probably off since you can’t give an instance other than weird looks. Hate to tell you dude. I get weird looks too. I have met many Asian Americans in one of the most supposedly racist parts of the country and i am good enough friends with them to know that there is no ill will towards asians in general right now or anytime in my lifetime.

 

[Get in the Carr]

How does what they say about Americans mean a damned thing? Do you base your treatment of others on what people in other countries are doing?

No, i’m saying one article about one DB who apparently has a thing against Asians shouldn’t give you an outlook that everyone hates Asians right now. Just saying there are zero articles about backlash for Americans over there when China is pushing that Americans started the virus. That’s because they control the media.

 

[PurpleBlack&Gold]

More possible good news if confirmed.

"If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all. "

Coronavirus may have infected half of UK population — Oxford study

New epidemiological model shows urgent need for large-scale testing

www.ft.com

 

[DaveXA]

Exactly. I don’t agree with it. I just think you’re sights are probably off since you can’t give an instance other than weird looks. Hate to tell you dude. I get weird looks too. I have met many Asian Americans in one of the most supposedly racist parts of the country and i am good enough friends with them to know that there is no ill will towards asians in general right now or anytime in my lifetime.

Well, I mean, I can give examples of my wife being stalked, groped at work and on the metro and overcharged at a number of different establishments. But apparently, since my sights are off, I guess there ain't much for me to say.

Whatever man. You have no idea what my wife is going through or has been through. You speak for you and I'll speak for me.

 

[DaveXA]

More possible good news if confirmed.

"If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all. "

Coronavirus may have infected half of UK population — Oxford study

New epidemiological model shows urgent need for large-scale testing

www.ft.com

Meh, behind a paywall. Would have like to read how the study was done. It's often been reported that around 80% of cases have mild to no symptoms and 20% have more severe symptoms. If it's 1 out of 1000 hospitalized, then there have to be a huge number of infected people to make the numbers work. I'm guessing there have been 10,000 hospitalized to date, then that would mean that based on this research there are approximately a million people in the US with or have recently had the virus. That's a large number.

 

[PurpleBlack&Gold]

Meh, behind a paywall. Would have like to read how the study was done. It's often been reported that around 80% of cases have mild to no symptoms and 20% have more severe symptoms. If it's 1 out of 1000 hospitalized, then there have to be a huge number of infected people to make the numbers work. I'm guessing there have been 10,000 hospitalized to date, then that would mean that based on this research there are approximately a million people in the US with or have recently had the virus. That's a large number.

Weird, I was able to read it without paying or logging in.

 

[StudioSaint]

Meh, behind a paywall. Would have like to read how the study was done. It's often been reported that around 80% of cases have mild to no symptoms and 20% have more severe symptoms. If it's 1 out of 1000 hospitalized, then there have to be a huge number of infected people to make the numbers work. I'm guessing there have been 10,000 hospitalized to date, then that would mean that based on this research there are approximately a million people in the US with or have recently had the virus. That's a large number.

Based on 330 million people in the United States and only 10% of the population getting infected, that yields 33 million people infected. If only 1 out of every 1000 of those requires hospitalization, that yields 33 thousand hospitalizations.

 

[PurpleBlack&Gold]

Meh, behind a paywall. Would have like to read how the study was done. It's often been reported that around 80% of cases have mild to no symptoms and 20% have more severe symptoms. If it's 1 out of 1000 hospitalized, then there have to be a huge number of infected people to make the numbers work. I'm guessing there have been 10,000 hospitalized to date, then that would mean that based on this research there are approximately a million people in the US with or have recently had the virus. That's a large number.

Here's a trick. Copy this:

If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.

And use it to search google. Click the link there and you can read it for free.

Or

Cliff notes version the article:

"The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford. "

“We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” she said. The modelling by Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group indicates that Covid-19 reached the UK by mid-January at the latest. Like many emerging infections, it spread invisibly for more than a month before the first transmissions within the UK were officially recorded at the end of February. The research presents a very different view of the epidemic to the modelling at Imperial College London, which has strongly influenced government policy. “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” said Prof Gupta. "

" But the Oxford results would mean the country had already acquired substantial herd immunity through the unrecognised spread of Covid-19 over more than two months. If the findings are confirmed by testing, then the current restrictions could be removed much sooner than ministers have indicated. Although some experts have shed doubt on the strength and length of the human immune response to the virus, Prof Gupta said the emerging evidence made her confident that humanity would build up herd immunity against Covid-19. "

They do not offer a link to the actual study.

 

[PurpleBlack&Gold]

Based on 330 million people in the United States and only 10% of the population getting infected, that yields 33 million people infected. If only 1 out of every 1000 of those requires hospitalization, that yields 33 thousand hospitalizations.

Not to mention every other study I have seen says about 20% of cases need hospitalization.