Daylight Saving Time possibly permanent 11/2023 (2 Viewers)

[Thunderchild]

 

[Bill]

True. But it does matter to me whether there is enough sunlight to see that foot of blanket.

 

[Zztop]

to this day I still don't like having summer days where it starts to get dark around 9pm, but in the winter it is around 5pm.

 

[faceman]

to this day I still don't like having summer days where it starts to get dark around 9pm, but in the winter it is around 5pm.

Once again, it's why no clock setting is going to change natural daylight.

 

[Bill]

Once again, it's why no clock setting is going to change natural daylight.

Right. It’s simply a matter of when we use the daylight.

 

[Heathen Saint]

Woah. I agree with Marco Rubio on something

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

I pass high schoolers at 610 every morning waiting on bus. Don’t hear crying from parents bar that they’re in the dark. Now a preschooler I’d feel differently. But luckily they don’t go to bus til 715 here.

It’s pretty much always been that way. HS students get picked up first & start earlier, then JH then elementary last.

 

[gboudx]

It’s pretty much always been that way. HS students get picked up first & start earlier, then JH then elementary last.

It's opposite in our school district, and seems to be the same for many up here. Elementary schools start first, with bus pickups earlier than middle and high school. Middle and high school start/end at the same time, and later than elementary.

 

[town123]

The 2 year trial of permanent DST ended in 1974 because the winter morning sunrises were so late. Detroit had a bunch of problems, mostly traffic accidents and kids being in the dark to start school.

I'm thinking this will be another case of 'sounds great' turning into 'nope, go back'.

Might work in fair weather states, but we get more freezing rain here that melts by morning rush, but won't with DST because the sun won't have that extra hour to heat up.

What about just going back to standard time permanently?

 

[gboudx]

The 2 year trial of permanent DST ended in 1974 because the winter morning sunrises were so late. Detroit had a bunch of problems, mostly traffic accidents and kids being in the dark to start school.

I'm thinking this will be another case of 'sounds great' turning into 'nope, go back'.

Might work in fair weather states, but we get more freezing rain here that melts by morning rush, but won't with DST because the sun won't have that extra hour to heat up.

What about just going back to standard time permanently?

My preference would be to stay on Standard time. The problem with implementing the time change, and then reverting back is all the electronic devices will need their software updated again. One change to remain on Savings/Standard time, then another to revert the change. There's costs involved with doing this. Most devices that get their time from a cell tower, internet gateway(wifi or wired), network router, etc, acquire their time via an NTP server. Basically anything connected to the internet gets it's time from an NTP server. Unfortunately, NTP is based on UTC and doesn't adjust for artificial time changes, such as time zones and standard/savings time. Software has to make the adjustments, and software changes have a cost.

 

[J.T.]

I never could figure out why DST upset farmers. You get up before sunrise, you go to sleep after sunset. You don't even need a clock, just a calendar.

 

[faceman]

The 2 year trial of permanent DST ended in 1974 because the winter morning sunrises were so late. Detroit had a bunch of problems, mostly traffic accidents and kids being in the dark to start school.

I'm thinking this will be another case of 'sounds great' turning into 'nope, go back'.

Might work in fair weather states, but we get more freezing rain here that melts by morning rush, but won't with DST because the sun won't have that extra hour to heat up.

What about just going back to standard time permanently?

My brother in law was born and raised in Tower Mn. He told me the sun rises at 9am and sets at 330 pm during the
shortest days of winter. Who wants a 10am sunrise? I don't

 

[faceman]

Right. It’s simply a matter of when we use the daylight.

It'll work at our latitude. Not so much for our far northern brothers

 

[Semper]

My brother in law was born and raised in Tower Mn. He told me the sun rises at 9am and sets at 330 pm during the
shortest days of winter. Who wants a 10am sunrise? I don't

I find that. Hard to believe. My guess he is exaggerating a little.

Sunrise and sunset times in Minneapolis, December 2024

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[saintmdterps]

Like you care what time it is.

Daydrinkers have no regard for DST