Derek Carr won’t take a pay cut for 2025 but willing to restructure to help the cap

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SWJJ said:
Minshew went 2-7 as a starter threw 9 TDs and 10 Interceptions with the raiders this year
Carr is 14-13 as a starter with 40TDs and 13 Ints as a Saint


Cutting Carr to sign Minshew is about the dumbest thing a GM could do and would merit getting himself fired.
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Bro, I just don’t get it. How can a fanbase hate a guy so much?

I’m fully convinced that some people just don’t watch any other games to be able to understand that Carr is solid.

The fact that someone actually comped Minshew to him all but confirms it.

Unreal.

Carr is being held to a standard matched only by all-time NFL greats by many people here. Any negative play he has gets magnified to disproportionate levels.
 
Honestly why would he?!? I hate to hurt the feelings of the Carr haters but $30 million is a bargain these days for a starting QB. Has anyone seen what they are paying Tyreek Hill in Miami to whine? It’s time to move on and be thankful. The guy may not be Mahomes or Allen but then the Saints are not paying him like a Mahomes or Allen.
 
St. Geezy said:
Bro, I just don’t get it. How can a fanbase hate a guy so much?

I’m fully convinced that some people just don’t watch any other games to be able to understand that Carr is solid.

The fact that someone actually comped Minshew to him all but confirms it.

Unreal.

Carr is being held to a standard matched only by all-time NFL greats by many people here. Any negative play he has gets magnified to disproportionate levels.
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The most sensible post of the day!
 
The only way you kick his contract can down the road is if he's in it. Don't make an immediate foolish move, but don't drag this thing out. Post June 1 cut if ya gotta.
 
ATLien said:
The only way you kick his contract can down the road is if he's in it. Don't make an immediate foolish move, but don't drag this thing out. Post June 1 cut if ya gotta.
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Who is going to take his place…..Rattler?
 
dvdman said:
Who is going to take his place…..Rattler?
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Any one year bridge vet. Team is going suck anyway. Better to get on with taking the medicine and positioning for the 2026 draft where there are better QB prospects. Why not just stick with Carr, you say? Cuz he's just good enough to keep us mid (7-10 to 9-8). A selling point to a new coach is to get moving toward the future ASAP.
 
St. Geezy said:
Bro, I just don’t get it. How can a fanbase hate a guy so much?

I’m fully convinced that some people just don’t watch any other games to be able to understand that Carr is solid.

The fact that someone actually comped Minshew to him all but confirms it.

Unreal.

Carr is being held to a standard matched only by all-time NFL greats by many people here. Any negative play he has gets magnified to disproportionate levels.
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Because he's mid AND arrogant. Not a good combo for any career choice, especially a team-based career.
 
@Stinkers you are fast becoming my favorite member on here! If your not Derek, your certainly a family member and I love it! I take your clowning as a badge of Honor. Carry on my wayward son
 
Zero issues with what he said. Fact is, we don't have any wins without him. That isn't a speculation, its a fact
 
I think his contract is fine. The question is, are we in a position in 2025 that it makes sense to pay it. I personally believe this is the time to do a hard reset and trade off players for draft picks.

I would love to trade Carr and his contract to a team who needs him and get draft picks in return. Then, you let Rattler show what he can do. He either proves to be QB of the future or you struggle and draft Arch Manning (or hot QB flavor of the month) after a rebuild season. You take the extra draft picks and try to build a new young core.

I don’t know if Carr would be open to trade and I don’t know how much it would help our cap if any…but it seems like the best possible outcome.
 
TenTwo said:
I think his contract is fine. The question is, are we in a position in 2025 that it makes sense to pay it. I personally believe this is the time to do a hard reset and trade off players for draft picks.

I would love to trade Carr and his contract to a team who needs him and get draft picks in return. Then, you let Rattler show what he can do. He either proves to be QB of the future or you struggle and draft Arch Manning (or hot QB flavor of the month) after a rebuild season. You take the extra draft picks and try to build a new young core.

I don’t know if Carr would be open to trade and I don’t know how much it would help our cap if any…but it seems like the best possible outcome.
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A trade would be better than a cut or doing nothing. Saves you about 10mil. You still have to restructure the whole team for the most part but at least gives you a bit of wiggle room after you do.

It's not an easy sell to trade either. He's in the back end, more expensive part of his contract. Basically it's 45mil/yr for 2 years for another team. Not horrible but it won't be easy.

The best course is to just restructure him. It gives you more room to properly handle players who aren't playing or won't be playing next year. He'll at least give you a return on the money. Other guys you'd be forced to restructure are out of gas. You can cut him in 2026 and be about 30 mil under the cap if you want to (before June 1st). All while keeping your other restructures modest.
 

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