Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits) (2 Viewers)

[Filaphill]

I can see Carr on the Jets, average QB on an average team

Exactly he would be perfectly average with them.

 

[jahsoul357]

It's hard to know what we have with Pete. One really good season with a good roster, and a bad season with a bad roster. I was on the fire Pete train, but I understand keeping him after thinking about it. The belief must be that Pete can get back to the 2012 offense if they get the right pieces. And if they do, that should be fun to watch with DA's defense.

But this is why I always criticize coaching. When DA said we were going to run the same offense we have been running for the past 16 season, I knew we were screwed because we didn't run the same offense. We pretty much had the pieces for a 2008-2014 Saints offense; QB who can hit the intermediate/deep routes with ease, possession receivers, vertical deep threat(s), athletic TE, and versatile RB (although I admit that we fumbled the bag as it relates to the RB room). What we ended up rolling out what a rehash of what an end of his career Brees would run. If they couldn't recognize that, I don't know how they think that they can recapture what Pete did in 2012. Crap, we used motion, screens, and crazy formations (yall remember 3 RBs in the backfield). We didn't see anything similar this season..

 

[TheRealJRad]

But the thing with the Jets is that there is so much more.
The ownership isn’t that much better than the Raiders. They’re in a tough division and once you get out of the East, you gotta deal with Mahomes and Burrow.

Yea I mean you aren’t wrong there, it’s just a weird take the Jets are some awful team. They were like #4 scoring defense* and you have G. Wilson, Breece Hall and Elijah Moore as offensive weapons.

ETA: *In a division with the Bills and Dolphins

 

[Saint Jack]

Yea I mean you aren’t wrong there, it’s just a weird take the Jets are some awful team. They were like #4 scoring defense and you have G. Wilson, Breece Hall and Elijah Moore as offensive weapons.

It’s just the perception surrounding the franchise. They’ve been so bad for so long, except for two Rex Ryan years. Heck, they’ve only been able their division twice in the past 53 years.
Add on the inferiority complex they have with the Giants, how can you not be perpetually dysfunctional?

 

[B_doggman47]

I believe Carr will sign with the Saints. We have the better O-Line when healthy that can protect him. We have more offensive weapons. With FA and the draft coming up, we will shore up any weaknesses we have left. Yeah money factors into this, but don't think for one minute that he won't look at the situation on teams offenses for him to succeed.

 

[webster]

I hope a bidding war doesn’t begin. Big mistake to overreach for Carr. He is average at this point in his career.

 

[Rouxble]

He should though. Good chance he wins the division, probably the first 2 seasons, if he picks the Saints but he won’t if he goes to the Jets. They’ll realise he’s never getting them out of the AFC and move on within 2-3 years.

But yeah it’s always about money. If he has any sense, he’ll be using the Jets to squeeze more out of the Saints.

His last deal was basically four years $140m with $25m guaranteed. He only got paid the $25m, and didn’t get a penny from a single year of his three-year extension.

I don’t think his agent will let that happen to him again, they are likely going for a bigger first year cash amount this time. Spotrac estimates his AAV at $38m/yr, which would be 10th overall for QB’s. If that’s his market, that could very well put his first year payout at $50m or more, based on the ten biggest QB contracts having a first year cash that averages 140% of the AAV.

 

[B4YOU]

Question:

Does anyone believe Carr will get a fully guaranteed $$ deal??

That is what happened in the Deshaun situation one team decided to put it all in. If Carr visits another team after the Jets it might get crazy.

Carr could get a Cousins-type contract with 100M fully guaranteed for 3years from a desperate team.

 

[Saints 318]

Jets are a QB away

 

[sammymvpknight]

Carr could get a Cousins-type contract with 100M fully guaranteed for 3years from a desperate team.

Few are as desperate as we are. We tried to trade the house for a serial predator and failed

 

[Saint Spud]

Jets are a QB away

From finishing 3rd in their division?

 

[Clintonrebel]

I told everyone he was going to the Jets, they are his best chance of winning and getting paid. If that team had Carr last year they are a 10 win team.

And so are we. And without snow.

 

[gregh]

just like getting someone to work on your house, hes getting 2 estimates. he will use one to go back to the other and say, this is what they are charging ( willing to pay) what will you do with this info?

 

[saintmike23]

Herm Edwards: Derek Carr threw 28 INTs the last two season. Can you imagine him dealing with the NY media after throwing interceptions? Yeah, he needs to go to New Orleans.

Thanks, but no thanks Herm!

 

[PHSaint518]

Herm Edwards: Derek Carr threw 28 INTs the last two season. Can you imagine him dealing with the NY media after throwing his interceptions? Yeah, he needs to go to New Orleans.

Thanks, but no thanks Herm!

There was a guy who threw 30 interceptions in one season and at least 80% of this forum were all for him.