Expect the Saints to show interest in Chiefs OC Matt Nagy for HC per Dianna Russini (1 Viewer)

[El Caliente]

And you think becoming a Falcon's (puke!) fan is going to help your heart condition?

It’s not that I would be a Falcons fan, it’s that I would be completely disgusted with the hiring.

Prayers up we don’t hire the guy (or let him into the Zoom room for the interview).

 

[St. Geezy]

It’s not that I would be a Falcons fan, it’s that I would be completely disgusted with the hiring.

Prayers up we don’t hire the guy (or let him into the Zoom room for the interview).

So a guy gets one chance, several years ago and with one of the most “Coaching/QB Graveyard” teams in the league the past couple of decades, has mild success with a rookie first round bust QB then fizzles out, and that’s it? He’s permanently destined to be a bad coach forever? Not even interview worthy?

 

[El Caliente]

So a guy gets one chance, several years ago and with one of the most “Coaching/QB Graveyard” teams in the league the past couple of decades, has mild success with a rookie first round bust QB then fizzles out, and that’s it? He’s permanently destined to be a bad coach forever? Not even interview worthy?

In Nagy’s case? Yeah. It’s wild that he peaked in his 1st year, and once the previous regimes talent left he got exposed.

I’d rather give Rizzi a year as HC rather than hire that bafoon Nagy.

I went through the DA experience where folks said (and there were plenty) “you have to give him the benefit of the doubt because he was the HC of a bad franchise.”

Him being an offensive coordinator, and people saying “he was a bad offense” Isn’t the ringing endorsement one might think it is.

 

[St. Widge]

This.

We have a mere interview scheduled with a coach who had a winning record, took a putrid Bears franchise to the playoffs twice with Mitch Trubisky being saddled on him by a GM that struggled mightily in the talent acquisition department, came a double-doink FG away from advancing, and has since spent time the past three years working under the current premier coach for the current premier team of the league and one of the most innovative offenses the sport has seen play-design wise.

I don’t understand all the whining. Just because a guy fizzled out at one job doesn’t make him a bad candidate.

Reading some of these posts, you’d think we are passing on a host of 2-3 time Super Bowl Champion head coaches that are available to us.

It’s an interview, folks. That’s it. This is the exact type of candidate we should be interviewing from the former HC realm, along with a handful of potential up and comer types.

I think it’s worth hearing what Nagy has to say, at a minimal.

I agree with the above, but I'll add that it's not even an interview. It's "interest" in Nagy. And yet, people are losing their sheet.

I think you are right that if it isn't Ben Johnson people will call it a terrible and/or lazy hire.

 

[El Caliente]

I agree with the above, but I'll add that it's not even an interview. It's "interest" in Nagy. And yet, people are losing their sheet.

I think you are right that if it isn't Ben Johnson people will call it a terrible and/or lazy hire.

I think people will be less enraged if it’s anyone other than Nagy.

Honestly the mere fact that we have “interest” in that guy after we just got done with the DA disaster is concerning.

Now if we are bringing him in to be OC, and if he can bring Andy Reid with him, then sign me up.

 

[St. Widge]

In Nagy’s case? Yeah. It’s wild that he peaked in his 1st year, and once the previous regimes talent left he got exposed.

I’d rather give Rizzi a year as HC rather than hire that bafoon Nagy.

I went through the DA experience where folks said (and there were plenty) “you have to give him the benefit of the doubt because he was the HC of a bad franchise.”

Him being an offensive coordinator, and people saying “he was a bad offense” Isn’t the ringing endorsement one might think it is.

I'm not arguing Nagy is good and this is a legit question, but was that Nagy's fault or the GMs fault for letting the talent go and not replacing it with better talent?

I really know too little about Nagy to have a real opinion on him, but getting to the playoffs with Trubisky as your QB seems like it would go in the plus column for him. But, I don't know all the circumstances around his time in Chicago.

 

[St. Widge]

I think people will be less enraged if it’s anyone other than Nagy.

Honestly the mere fact that we have “interest” in that guy after we just got done with the DA disaster is concerning.

Now if we are bringing him in to be OC, and if he can bring Andy Reid with him, then sign me up.

Less enraged, maybe, but still enraged.

I think this whole every coach that lost a job is DA narrative is strange. I mean, lots of coaches do fail in one job and go on to be good coaches in their next job. The list is long and starts with Belichick. Maybe there is no other reason for Nagy getting fired other than his own incompetence, but I think it's dumb to eliminate all coaches who lost a job. I mean, that eliminates Vrable, Flores, and everyone else that isn't currently an OC or DC that never got a shot as a HC.

 

[DerrickB]

He did a bang up job with Trubiski and Fields

Not really
He got to the playoffs with him twice. And Tru wasn't even a quarterback that he drafted.

 

[St. Widge]

Unknowns are better (sean payton was a unknown)

These OCs or DCs that are part of superbowl and dynasty rarely amount to ANYTHING.

So you want to hire an OC or DC from a sheetty team that has never had a HC job?

It's a bold move Cotton, lets see if it works out for them.

 

[Saints 318]

Are we really this dumb of an organization

 

[Eeyore]

I think people will be less enraged if it’s anyone other than Nagy.

Honestly the mere fact that we have “interest” in that guy after we just got done with the DA disaster is concerning.

Now if we are bringing him in to be OC, and if he can bring Andy Reid with him, then sign me up.

He's the oc of a team that's scoring is down.

They were averaging about 29 points per game until he got there. They've averaged 24 points since

 

[St. Geezy]

He's the oc of a team that's scoring is down.

They were averaging about 29 points per game until he got there. They've averaged 24 points since

They have personnel and health issues. Besides, Andy Reid is still there.

 

[St. Widge]

So, based on all the crying about even having an "interest" in Nagy, I assumed he had a terrible record as the HC in Chicago. But, it turns out that he was 34-31 with a 12-4 season, two 8-8 seasons, and one 6-11 season with Trubisky and rookie Fields as his QBs.

I don't think that should make him the front runner for the job, but it certainly takes him out of the category of too terrible to even consider interviewing and dumb for even considering it.

This is a former NFL HC with a winning record whose only losing season was with rookie Justin Fields who was downright terrible.

What am I missing here?

 

[El Caliente]

Less enraged, maybe, but still enraged.

I think this whole every coach that lost a job is DA narrative is strange. I mean, lots of coaches do fail in one job and go on to be good coaches in their next job. The list is long and starts with Belichick. Maybe there is no other reason for Nagy getting fired other than his own incompetence, but I think it's dumb to eliminate all coaches who lost a job. I mean, that eliminates Vrable, Flores, and everyone else that isn't currently an OC or DC that never got a shot as a HC.

It’s true, Vrabel and Flores were fired, but that’s the only thing that they have in common with Nagy.

Both of them built systems that they could hang their hats on. Flores is a top notch DC. Vrabel had a solid culture in Tennessee, and he was let go due to a power struggle.

Nagy hasn’t even proven to be a competent OC as Andy Reid calls the plays on offense. As a coach he saw his team get worse and worse with each passing year. Nobody knows if he has learned from his past failure because he went back to a comfortable place in KC, where little is expected of him.

I don’t know why anyone would consider him after his prior crash landing, and our recent failure with DA.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Or another young QB. It will be interesting to see if they keep Carr, cut Carr and go with Rattler, or cut Carr and sign someone like Fields, Daniel Jones, Darnold, or Zach Wilson as reclamation projects. But I think/hope that will be up to the next HC.

Keep Carr, but the days of thinking you can maximize him w/ the right scheme are over.

However, he’s still your projected starter in 25, honoring Kubiak’s contract makes sense.