For anyone who says Carr is just a stat padder and don’t win: (32 Viewers)

[Ghost]

Raider fans were clear about Carr when he came to the Saints.

When he's good he can be very good. When he's bad, he's embarrassingly bad. They said he was a very polarizing QB for the fans.

When the Saints signed him, I said he was going to have to play far far better than he did as a Raider. The Raider-Carr games I watched, he threw dazzling passes and bonehead interceptions. My main takeaway for those years is that every game in the 4th quarter, the Raiders had 14 or 17 points. Not enough.

In 2023, we learned that he's poor in the red zone (career thing), and he lost his composure with emotions and poor decisions. In 2024, he gave us two perfect games to start the season against non-playoff teams. He missed 7 out of 16 games to injury. In games he played against 2024 playoff teams, the Saints lost them all, and look at the scoring output.

Eagles (12 points, Carr 1 TD pass)
Chiefs (13 points, 2 TD passes);
Rams (14 points, 1 TD pass)

If somebody wants to look at his games against 2023 playoff teams have at it.

Carr is a mid, not an above-mid QB. We got Raider Carr, not 'new-and-improved and can you at least remind us a little of Brees?' Carr. He's lifted no boats in 2 years. Keep him for another year because it's less cap-injuring.

Also, he's not a culture fit, not close. There's no "us against the world" emotion or level of play coming from him. We thrive on highly-self-motivated personas, like Drew, Alvin, Cam, Gardner-Johnson, Latt, Dom, and MT before the career ended.

Don't like me saying it? Here's a 2023 article from Underhill on Carr's career red-zone woes. I can only read the headline, but that's all I need. We trust Nick.

NewOrleans.Football

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This post is correct in every particular.

 

[DaveXA]

I don’t like him as a player. He is about the 20 th best Qb in the league. When we signed him. I liked it. That team Had Kamara, Ram, Mike Thomas, a younger Cam, Demario, Granderson, and many others. The Saints front office has failed at drafting. They let great free agents walk out the door. This is a whole rebuild. If we had 6-9 pro bowlers. Let’s try it. Especially in this terrible division. We don’t have any. We don’t have depth. If you think the Salary cap is bad this year. What if we restructure him?
He wants out of here. If he gets cut. He will make $25 from the Saints. Nobody is paying this dude 15 million next year. He could have taken a pay cut. I don’t blame him for it. This is where we are as a franchise. This guy thinks he is going to make 40 million dollars this year off of 2 years of injury plagued, throwing fits football. I am so done with this dude!

I'll gladly bet a donation to SR that if Carr is cut, he will be playing for some team next season for well over $15 million.

Personally, I'm fine if Carr gets cut, but there definitely are teams that would sign Carr and start him in a heartbeat.

 

[meily]

I'll gladly bet a donation to SR that if Carr is cut, he will be playing for some team next season for well over $15 million.

Personally, I'm fine if Carr gets cut, but there definitely are teams that would sign Carr and start him in a heartbeat.

I do not understand the Carr hate, he's a good QB but I believe it might be best to part ways not because of his play but because of the direction this team is taking.

 

[DaveXA]

I do not understand the Carr hate, he's a good QB but I believe it might be best to part ways not because of his play but because of the direction this team is taking.

Yeah, it all really is going to hang on the new coaching staff. They might want Carr on a one year bridge until they get the QB they want in next year's draft. There should be a strong group then.

Of course, they could well test out Rattler for a season and let Carr go. We'll see.

 

[DSnfla]

Wow, Carr beat Minshew by .4 in top completion percentage over expected. What a guy. And those top QB's, they play in January, something Derek did once in a loss.

Like I said, Derek is great from the 20 to the 50.

All I care about is decent scoring against good to great teams. What's his rank there?

Score points and the stats will come. Don't score points, who cares what the other stats are, besides his agent. Score points against good teams, and that means you are probably scoring points against lesser teams.

You can't really believe that RZ efficiency is all on the QB!!
RZ scoring is way more about play calling . And when you get inside the 10 way more runs are called and all the QB does on those plays is hand off. RZ efficiency is an OFFENSIVE stat

Also assigning RZ efficiency to the QB is ridiculous due to dropped passes and fumbles by other players

 

[No2DC]

I hate to say it, but if I had to choose between Carr and Ratt for my first year as coach, I'd go with Carr.

 

[DaveXA]

I hate to say it, but if I had to choose between Carr and Ratt for my first year as coach, I'd go with Carr.

I would think most coaches do that as well. Draft other positions this year, run with Carr and Rattler and let them battle for the starting job in the preseason. Carr probably ends up the day 1 starter in that scenario.

Then draft a qb next year.

 

[texasjefe]

You can't really believe that RZ efficiency is all on the QB!!
RZ scoring is way more about play calling . And when you get inside the 10 way more runs are called and all the QB does on those plays is hand off. RZ efficiency is an OFFENSIVE stat

Also assigning RZ efficiency to the QB is ridiculous due to dropped passes and fumbles by other players

I most certainly can.

The field general is absolutely and substantially more accountable for points scored and red zone efficiency. Carr underperforms his peers in those categories.

Go see what Underhill said in his Nov. 23 article "How Saints QB Derek Carr's history of red-zone woes have only grown worse in New Orleans."

He's got 11 years in the league. He is what he is. If the team is a problem as a whole, maybe check in with the GM on that.

 

[No2DC]

If that’s the case, you will probably hate being a Saints fan for a long while my friend. lol

Nah, just since Sean left. I had common sense as a kid when we were the aints. As I got older, I got sentimental during the Haz years, and Drew took us to the promised land. I don't lose sleep over the team anymore because the regime doesn't seem serious about getting a ring again.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

I'll gladly bet a donation to SR that if Carr is cut, he will be playing for some team next season for well over $15 million.

Personally, I'm fine if Carr gets cut, but there definitely are teams that would sign Carr and start him in a heartbeat.

I hope they do. He needs to play elsewhere.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

You can't really believe that RZ efficiency is all on the QB!!
RZ scoring is way more about play calling . And when you get inside the 10 way more runs are called and all the QB does on those plays is hand off. RZ efficiency is an OFFENSIVE stat

Also assigning RZ efficiency to the QB is ridiculous due to dropped passes and fumbles by other players

Yes. It is always everyone else's fault. Carr is never responsible for his performance.