Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore... (1 Viewer)

[saintmdterps]

Guess that’s not quite as bad as nut-huggers to the left and tree-cases to the right

Or clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...

 

[2009ring]

Now there's a phrase you don't run across every day.....

Not a phrase I say all that often either

 

[Saint_Ward]

False. They rebuilt the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis in a year after it collapsed in 2007.
Mn/DOT announced on September 19, 2007, that Flatiron Constructors and Manson Construction Co. would build the replacement bridge for $234 million.[165] The I-35W Saint Anthony Falls Bridge was opened to the public on September 18, 2008, at 5 a.m.[166] Using the innovative design-build project delivery method, the replacement bridge opened over three months ahead of schedule, and was awarded the "Best Overall Design-Build Project Award" for 2009 from the Design-Build Institute of America.[167]

I-35W Mississippi River bridge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The FSK bridge is 4 times longer.

 

[Optimus Prime]

When I first drove across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge it was a really windy day and I felt every gust in my car

I was scared to death

And even though it’s never been that bad since I always hold my breath a bit when I drive over it

 

[LA_Steve]

If you have ever taken the Amtrac over the Huey P in rush hr. Before they widened it. My train stopped in top. My half filled plastic cup was sloshing all over the place. Way worse than when stopped in traffic and a train is going over.

 

[Optimus Prime]

A floating crane that officials said was one of the largest on the East Coast arrived at the site of the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore on Friday, part of a large flotilla being assembled to clear debris that has crippled one of the nation’s largest ports and spread economic pain.


The Chesapeake 1000, which can lift 1,000 tons, will play a featured role in the cleanup from the disaster, but Maryland Gov. Wes Moore (D) said Friday it will be joined by 10 other cranes, 10 tugs, nine barges, eight salvage vessels and five Coast Guard boats that will arrive over the next several days.


But even as officials raced to restore access to the Port of Baltimore, which generates thousands of jobs and handles tens of billions of dollars worth of cargo each year, the Chesapeake 1000 sat idle Friday, underscoring the complexity, length and danger of the operation.


Officials said they couldn’t move forward with clearing debris until they had finished a careful assessment of the scene, where massive trusses sit twisted in 50-foot water and a large section of the Key Bridge is draped precariously across the bow of the cargo ship that struck it Tuesday……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/03/29/baltimore-bridge-collapse-crane-cleanup/

 

[baarbogast]

I'm learning a lot about sailing and the east coast. Thank you for sharing your knowlege to this land lubber.

 

[Nisey55]

A floating crane that officials said was one of the largest on the East Coast arrived at the site of the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore on Friday, part of a large flotilla being assembled to clear debris that has crippled one of the nation’s largest ports and spread economic pain.


The Chesapeake 1000, which can lift 1,000 tons, will play a featured role in the cleanup from the disaster, but Maryland Gov. Wes Moore (D) said Friday it will be joined by 10 other cranes, 10 tugs, nine barges, eight salvage vessels and five Coast Guard boats that will arrive over the next several days.


But even as officials raced to restore access to the Port of Baltimore, which generates thousands of jobs and handles tens of billions of dollars worth of cargo each year, the Chesapeake 1000 sat idle Friday, underscoring the complexity, length and danger of the operation.


Officials said they couldn’t move forward with clearing debris until they had finished a careful assessment of the scene, where massive trusses sit twisted in 50-foot water and a large section of the Key Bridge is draped precariously across the bow of the cargo ship that struck it Tuesday……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/03/29/baltimore-bridge-collapse-crane-cleanup/

I can tell my retired crane operator husband is wishing that he could be the one running the 1000 ton, he always got excited/nervous for a big lift and loves a challenge, though his biggest crane came in at 800 tons.
Personally, I would be petrified.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Some info on the crew of the Dali, didn’t realize they were still on board the ship
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Days after the Dali lost power and hit the Francis Scott Key Bridge on Tuesday, the crew remains on the massive cargo ship stuck in the middle of Baltimore’s harbor. Here’s what we know about the people on board and their condition.

There are 21 sailors on the Dali — 20 of whom are from India — said Shri Randhir Jaiswal, a spokesman for the country’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on Thursday.

About 316,000 Indians work as seafarers, nearly 20 percent of the global total, according to data published by India’s Ministry of Ports, Shipping and Waterways.

The two pilots are also still on the ship, a spokeswoman for the Key Bridge Joint Information Center said. That “unified command” is handling outreach for federal and state agencies involved in the disaster, as well as the company that manages the Dali.

Ship companies often look to India, as well as the Philippines and Indonesia, for trained seafarers who will work for lower salaries than American or European crews. Companies have also been shrinking their onboard staff even as cargo ships grow in size, experts say, as more tasks are automated……

How is the crew doing?​

Jaiswal said one crew member was injured in the collision and had to be taken off the ship to receive stitches. Now, he said, “All of them are in good shape, good health.”

Andrew Middleton, the director of a ministry in Dundalk, Md., said he had been in touch with members aboard the ship Friday morning. He said they had requested WiFi and new SIM cards to communicate with family back home.

Middleton’s Apostleship of the Sea is now coordinating with local ministries and companies, and plans to deliver some of those items Saturday…..

Will the crew be moved off the boat?​

Not yet, according to the Key Bridge unified command. In a statement Friday, authorities said they “do not have a plan for getting the crewmembers of the Dali off the vessel.” Instead, unless safety concerns change, the crew “will most likely disembark when the boat is moved or taken out of the water.”

At a news conference Friday, officials said moving the ship was a second priority, after reopening the shipping lane in and out of the Port of Baltimore. Ledoux said moving the ship would require a damage assessment once the bridge parts are removed, including divers checking for damage underwater, and then clearance from authorities to tug the boat.

Crews will need shore passes from U.S. Customs and Border Protection if they leave the boat and come ashore into the United States, Middleton said. A spokesperson for the bureau did not immediately return a request for comment on whether the entire Dali crew had been cleared to go on shore.…..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2024/03/29/dali-ship-crew-baltimore-bridge-collapse/

 

[Merl]

One question I have had that I haven't seen asked is was the speed of the ship (8 Knots/9.2 MPH) too fast for the conditions?

 

[Sailorsaint]

One question I have had that I haven't seen asked is was the speed of the ship (8 Knots/9.2 MPH) too fast for the conditions?

I think I read in one article that 8 knots was the normal speed. You have to maintain a certain speed to maintain steering, especially with a current. It’s a river which is different than a harbor.

 

[Merl]

I think I read in one article that 8 knots was the normal speed. You have to maintain a certain speed to maintain steering, especially with a current. It’s a river which is different than a harbor.

I was thinking that also, but I never have heard that asked the question. For all I knew 6 knots might have been the recommended max speed in the Baltimore harbor.

 

[sfidc3]

When I first drove across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge it was a really windy day and I felt every gust in my car

I was scared to death

And even though it’s never been that bad since I always hold my breath a bit when I drive over it

Same, always hated driving over it.....love the DE beaches and have good friends that have a place on the St. Michaels river just a few miles over it.....but felt much better when I was safely on the eastern shore for sure....

 

[Madmarsha]

Some info on the crew of the Dali, didn’t realize they were still on board the ship
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I had questions about that as well. Of course, they were headed OUT so I knew they had provisions as far as that goes, but wasn't sure about the power, etc.

 

[Maxp]

One question I have had that I haven't seen asked is was the speed of the ship (8 Knots/9.2 MPH) too fast for the conditions?

Slow ahead is an appropriate speed for where the vessel was in its departure. At sea speed, that ship probably makes 20 knots. At dead slow ahead, she would lose maneuverability.