Give Drew credit for admitting the deep throws have been missing.

[Saintshizzle]

He might have had him ready, but even though I wish after he broke his ribs that he didn't come back so soon to just fizzle out in the playoffs, I am glad Jameis got the chance to see how Drew did it and to give him a chance to mature while learning from Drew. I think that goes a long way in Jameis's development. Plus he developed a relationship with Drew, which allows Drew to coach him up if he needs it.

Definitely a great relationship between Drew and Jameis. Sean gets credit for the transition, maintaining our threat potential in the league. Well done.

 

[kcirdor]

Shizzle, Drew's play didn't lose the Vikings or the Rams. And the pressure on Drew because two years,(last year and the year before) in a row they used the bull rush up the middle on us and we couldn't stop it from collapsing the pocket, thus Drew had no chance to do anything. You can pretend you were right all this time. But the long ball doesn't really matter since we couldn't stop them when they put their ends rushing on our guards. Last year was the only year where the lack of arm strength actually came into play because he could barely move with half his ribs broken. Same with Taysom, Sean crafted a playbook that worked for him and we went 3 and 1, same for Teddy and he went 5-0.

Even with the long ball Sunday, our receivers could not get open. only 5 passes went to a Wide out.

 

[Saintaholik]

Drew said so on NBC Sunday night football. And I have been saying this since the NFCCG we had stolen from us. That was really the last year for any semblance of a true deep threat ability. And it was very marginal that year really. Add in, Jameis is also a threat to take off and run in given situations opens up the offense.

It really surprises me how many people don't understand "Sarcasm"

Drew was clearly being sarcastic. Although I agree with it, the tonality of what he said was not him admitting, rather then him hearing all the analyst say it for weeks and him clapping back at it in a serious but playful way.

No offense to anyone on here, bc it even went over the national media's head, but it's hilarious to me

 

[Saintshizzle]

We may not agree on this one Kcirdor, and that's fine. I think it's a forgone conclusion at this point. Its something we can all admit and laugh about. The only people in America that cant see how stifled our team was, offensively. The past 3 years are mostly us, with the rose-colored glasses. Appreciate the post.

 

[kcirdor]

We may not agree on this one Kcirdor, and that's fine. I think it's a forgone conclusion at this point. Its something we can all admit and laugh about. The only people in America that cant see how stifled our team was, offensively. The past 3 years are mostly us, with the rose-colored glasses. Appreciate the post.

The size of the playbook doesn't really matter since Drew had full command of that playbook with the ability to move people where he wanted them, with unmatched accuracy. The only time Drew should have rode off into the sunset was when he broke his ribcage. Add that to the Bucs and 49ers hate list.

If we can't stop the bull rush up the middle this year, Jameis is gonna throw a few picks under pressure, and it won't be because of arm strength. It's going to be because of Pressure. Same sheet I told my friends when they were excited to see Jameis throw the ball away. He was never under pressure. The one time he was under pressure he threw a pick and was bailed out by a RTP. Edit(he threw the ball into triple coverage. regardless if we think it was PI, it was triple coverage, the refs aint calling that) Let's see what he does when he is under pressure before praising a throw away when he had a receiver open on the other side of the field.

 

[Green-Ghost]

Winstons running ability really surprised me

I was thinking the very same thing. The other night when I was watching the game, I realized that Winston opened up the offense with his running game. I also thought, how many times have you seen an opposing quarterback do that to our defense.

Winstons running ability really surprised me

 

[Turfie]

It really surprises me how many people don't understand "Sarcasm"

Drew was clearly being sarcastic. Although I agree with it, the tonality of what he said was not him admitting, rather then him hearing all the analyst say it for weeks and him clapping back at it in a serious but playful way.

No offense to anyone on here, bc it even went over the national media's head, but it's hilarious to me

I’m in a daze thinking that people here don’t realize that one of the most cerebral QBs to ever play the game can’t realize his own limitations.

100% Brees knew that certain routes were off limits the last few years. Due to a combination of injuries, arm strength, and pocket mobility.

 

[Booker]

If the refs make the call and saints beat the rams there's no doubt drew would of retired if they beat the pats in the superbowl.

I think the plan was to retire after the Super Bowl, win or lose, but after what happened he couldn’t go out on the Rams game.

 

[Deucewildin]

Kept telling people yeah Drew is great . But Payton as far as scheme and offensive mind I’d literally 2nd to none.
I thank he will get the respect he truly deserves after this season.
Once MT and Stills get rolling I feel like this O will be like 2011. Just explosive

 

[Quiet Storm]

I am so over this false narrative that I've seen repeated multiple times on this forum.....

As if winning 11 to 13 regular season games never happened against eventual playoff teams.

But OH OH OH, sorry Saints, the playoffs are here, now you'll completely forget how to move the ball. Because long pass reasons.

In 2017 and 2018, Brees had playoff wins ripped from him due to the untimely incompetence of others. 2019? I would say that game had more to do with Zimmer's pass rush scheme as opposed to "because long pass reasons". And it STILL went into Overtime. And in 2020......they had a 7 point lead in the 3rd quarter over a team they'd already defeated TWICE, which likely was about to go to 14 until.....once again....untimely incompetence courtesy of a fumble. So let's not pretend some switch magically got flipped every year in the playoffs and the Saints were automatically "figured out" come playoff time. We should have been good enough to win a title with Brees as recent as his final season, which obviously was his most injury-filled.

They say the lack of deep ball is what ended our seasons but Peyton Manning couldn't throw over 10 yards his final year and he won a SB. Defenses win championships. Our offense was still good enough to win it all.

 

[NOLAJM504]

But if dinking and dunking is all you can do.....God help you in the playoffs...because the defense will cheat. They will put everyone in the box...runs, screens, even dinks and dunks that used to work in regular season wont work anymore. You must have that over the top threat...and threat for QB to call his own number.

If teams are trying their best to win every game they play, why aren't they doing all of those things you suggest only take place in the playoffs?

 

[demented]

It's not just the 55 yard bomb that was missing. He couldn't throw a 30 yard laser without a deep drop and full leg plant and weight transfer. If you can't do that then 20 yard outs become closed off. It essentially let the other team play inside out and take away the easy stuff.

 

[demented]

If teams are trying their best to win every game they play, why aren't they doing all of those things you suggest only take place in the playoffs?

We exploited match-up issues in the regular season. We watched film and targeted either scheme issues or bad fits. The playoff teams obviously have fewer holes to exploit....

 

[SystemShock]

I think the TD to Harris late in the game says it all. The past couple of years, that late in a game, after 25-30 passes, Drew doesn't make that throw; and frankly, I don't think he could've made that throw even if it was the first throw of the game. Winston was at the Saints' 36, and Deonte caught that at the 5. The throw went 59 yards.

On a related note, if there was a throw that will make defenses respect the long ball, is that one. It should open a lot close to the line.