How would you feel with Jaxson Dart at 9? (66 Viewers)

[MikeyF]

Theres a thread that says differently. https://saintsreport.com/threads/2024-nfl-draft-round-1.506782/page-71#post-9543989

Quite literally people saying it was the biggest reach of the draft, another saying he's just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. etc etc

You go to great lengths to prove yourself, "right."
I was talking about actual NFL Talking Heads & Experts.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

You go to great lengths to prove yourself, "right."
I was talking about actual NFL Talking Heads & Experts.

Then why would you quote me talking about this board?

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Dear sweet baby Jesus, please make someone pick him at # 8

Might actually happen. Some are already mocking him to the Giants at #3

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Might actually happen. Some are already mocking him to the Giants at #3

Mocking is the right word.

 

[Taker597]

Mocking is the right word.

You worked your entire life to get drafted to the NY Giants is a terrible fate.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Or Jeanty even if we don’t know make the trench picks we need to. But we have to spend our first two picks on solid first and second round talent and not make ridiculous reaches that we could regret. Even if Dart ends up being legit.

My worry w/ Jeanty is can he block. Everyone sees the running game and how that translated w/ an upper echelon back, but they don’t credit the blitz pickups that Barkley had a hand in high enough.

If something happens to Kamara who is our 2nd best back in protection (Williams was #1) Suddenly you’re left w/ Jeanty and Miller in those scenarios and by most accounts Blocking isn’t his strong suit and being his size doesn’t help.

Let someone like the Cowboys take Jeanty high, the Eagles are a smart franchise they’d never use a high 1st on a RB and would instead find a bargain in FA like they did w/ Barkley.

 

[TribuneUK]

You're right. It was so long ago I mis-remembered. Mahomes was their first choice however but the Chiefs traded up just before to snipe him. Heres Payton himself talking openly about it. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...-before-chiefs-traded-up-it-was-gonna-happen/

Thanks, that's the version I just found as well, glad I hadn't completely imagined it.

 

[TribuneUK]

Thanks, as I said, no trade up. If they wanted him that bad, you know they would have been climbing the draft order.

 

[Covington Saint]

My worry w/ Jeanty is can he block. Everyone sees the running game and how that translated w/ an upper echelon back, but they don’t credit the blitz pickups that Barkley had a hand in high enough.

If something happens to Kamara who is our 2nd best back in protection (Williams was #1) Suddenly you’re left w/ Jeanty and Miller in those scenarios and by most accounts Blocking isn’t his strong suit and being his size doesn’t help.

Tyler Warren fills so many more holes in our offense moving past Taysom than Jeanty. Jeanty is great but Warren could be the smarter selection.

 

[TribuneUK]

That's what I've seen and Mahommes had already been informed the Saints were taking him at 11 and when contacted by the Chiefs he told then that so they traded up to jump us.

QB is risky even in the 1st round i think I read the succes rate is 49.2% on QBs drafted in the 1st

This is yet another variation I've yet to see reported by anyone with credentials. Misinformation is rife.

Again, if the Chiefs were waiting for a call from a draft prospect to tell them what their draft strategy should be, then they aren't running an NFL team in the first place. That's just an outlandish idea.

 

[St. Geezy]

My worry w/ Jeanty is can he block. Everyone sees the running game and how that translated w/ an upper echelon back, but they don’t credit the blitz pickups that Barkley had a hand in high enough.

If something happens to Kamara who is our 2nd best back in protection (Williams was #1) Suddenly you’re left w/ Jeanty and Miller in those scenarios and by most accounts Blocking isn’t his strong suit and being his size doesn’t help.

Let someone like the Cowboys take Jeanty high, the Eagles are a smart franchise they’d never use a high 1st on a RB and would instead find a bargain in FA like they did w/ Barkley.

I’d say this…most running backs of the caliber that Jeanty has displayed are sound football players and athletes in general. If you need him to be a good blocker, he either already is, or at worst, can easily be coached into it.

I wouldn’t worry too much about that aspect.

Think about it…how often do you hear of great, big time backs that struggle or have to come off the field due to blocking worries? Those types of guys just know how to play ball with just about whatever you throw at them that is needed from the position.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Tyler Warren fills so many more holes in our offense moving past Taysom than Jeanty. Jeanty is great but Warren could be the smarter selection.

Or TMac(though a TE is a young QBs best friend) I say sit at 9 and see if one of the top 5 talents falls to you because if teams reaching for need.

If so, snatch them because one player at a specific position at 9 isn’t going to change our fortunes. Just get BPA if you can, if not look to trade back and get multiple picks

 

[Covington Saint]

Or TMac(though a TE is a young QBs best friend) I say sit at 9 and see if one of the top 5 talents falls to you because if teams reaching for need.

If so, snatch them because one player at a specific position at 9 isn’t going to change our fortunes. Just get BPA if you can, if not look to trade back and get multiple picks

i'm very luke warm on Tmac. I just don't see the dynamic exceptionalism.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I’d say this…most running backs of the caliber that Jeanty has displayed are sound football players and athletes in general. If you need him to be a good blocker, he either already is, or at worst, can easily be coached into it.

I wouldn’t worry too much about that aspect.

Think about it…how often do you hear of great, big time backs that struggle or have to come off the field due to blocking worries? Those types of guys just know how to play ball with just about whatever you throw at them that is needed from the position.

Coaching him isn’t the issue, but it’s a part of his game that will be limited because he’s small w/ less than optimal length.

I wouldn’t not draft him because of his blocking, but I wouldn’t chase him are be all in on him either

i'm very luke warm on Tmac. I just don't see the dynamic exceptionalism.

If we’re being honest I prefer Jayden Higgins Iowa State or if possible Tee Higgins in FA. The player I hope is there at 9 is Mason Graham. I think any type of scheme that relies on BGap pressure needs disruptive interior guys so you don’t need to blitz your Lbs as much

 

[St. Geezy]

Coaching him isn’t the issue, but it’s a part of his game that will be limited because he’s small w/ less than optimal length.

I wouldn’t not draft him because of his blocking, but I wouldn’t chase him are be all in on him either

Understandable.

I think the guy has a ceiling as high as LaDainian and at absolute worst, his floor is Mark Ingram.

I’d take my chances on the blocking part that we can get him sound in that department if he isn’t already.

This is all based on if we grade him out to a value worthy of pick 9 of course.