How would you feel with Jaxson Dart at 9? (82 Viewers)

[3ParStillDriver]

If we want Dart we can pick another player at 9 and then pick Dart in 2nd.

Not a chance. He's going first round. The question is will he sneak into top 10.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

No, we have multiple needs, so to me, BPA is what you draft at 9. I'd really like to find a partner and move back about 6 slots and pick up another draft pick or two.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

No, we have multiple needs, so to me, BPA is what you draft at 9. I'd really like to find a partner and move back about 6 slots and pick up another draft pick or two.

That's just now how things work when you have an offensive minded head coach without a franchise QB. If there's one on the board in that draft and they're capable of targeting that player, they usually will. Dart could be that guy at #9, but also could not. Considering we have the #9 pick and the capitol to move up if we need to, we'll know the answer come draft day on what's what. If we take him, that's our answer. If we don't take him but someone beat us to the podium but wanted him then there will likely be rumors of us trying. If there's pure silence about it after, we probably didn't.

We also have no idea what holes we have. We simply have zero indication of what schemes Moore is going to put on offense nor on defense. Not in the passing game, running or blocking scheme. We also haven't seen what our players are capable of when properly coached. Point being, Moore could be in complete disagreement with you as to what he needs to win.

 

[madsaint1967]

Dart at 40 yes but at 9th no. I'm an Ole Miss fan he has starter potential but will need a year or 2 to adjust to the NFL style of play. If he has a good combine he might sneak into the bottom of the first round

So, you would take your future starting QB ( if that’s your guy) at the end of the first round but not earlier. Ranking picks is a crapshoot, losing your guy to another team ( ie Mahommes) can set you back years just as picking the wrong guy can also. I just wanted to start a conversation to show the complete buy in on the consensus of “ know it all” draft geeks. QBs are really a class by themselves, Purdy was almost undrafted, Brady was 6th round and no one knew how they would play until the bullets starting flying.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

That's just now how things work when you have an offensive minded head coach without a franchise QB. If there's one on the board in that draft and they're capable of targeting that player, they usually will. Dart could be that guy at #9, but also could not. Considering we have the #9 pick and the capitol to move up if we need to, we'll know the answer come draft day on what's what. If we take him, that's our answer. If we don't take him but someone beat us to the podium then there will likely be rumors of us trying.

We also have no idea what holes we have. We simply have zero indication of what schemes Moore is going to put on offense nor on defense. Not in the passing game, running or blocking scheme. We also haven't seen what our players are capable of when properly coach. Point being, Moore could be in complete disagreement with you as to what he needs to win.

"We also have no idea what holes we have"? Seriously? Your argument goes completely out of the window with that statement.

 

[MikeyF]

My personal opinion is that if Carr is in the plans for 2025, we aren't drafting a QB at 9...

Also the team needs to see what it really has in Rattler.
He has shown in spurts that he can play in the NFL.
We need to see if he can show consistency for 4 quarters if he has starting NFL caliber player on the field with him.

There isn't a QB in this years draft that has his quick release & arm strength.

 

[money941]

If Moore took Dart at 9 and WR Jayden Higgins from Iowa State or Tre Harris of Ole Miss in the 2nd round what would you think?

Here they are, officer.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

"We also have no idea what holes we have"? Seriously? Your argument goes completely out of the window with that statement.

uh huh. You're right I'm wrong Good luck with that.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

So, you would take your future starting QB ( if that’s your guy) at the end of the first round but not earlier. Ranking picks is a crapshoot, losing your guy to another team ( ie Mahommes) can set you back years just as picking the wrong guy can also. I just wanted to start a conversation to show the complete buy in on the consensus of “ know it all” draft geeks. QBs are really a class by themselves, Purdy was almost undrafted, Brady was 6th round and no one knew how they would play until the bullets starting flying.

Yup. No one saw Bo Nix going as early as he did yet it made Payton look like a genius. Penix isn't looking bad either. Yet this board was laughing up a storm when both picks happened.

It just goes to show how many people on this board simply fail to understand the draft and how it works. Probably because of all the media floating running mock drafts that have players going in similar ranges. More people are malleable then not.

If Dart suddenly starts appearing in mock drafts as a top 10 pick after the combine this thread will take a very different direction.

 

[MikeyF]

Yup. No one saw Bo Nix going as early as he did yet it made Payton look like a genius. Penix isn't looking bad either. Yet this board was laughing up a storm when both picks happened.

It just goes to show how many people on this board simply fail to understand the draft and how it works. Probably because of all the media floating running mock drafts that have players going in similar ranges. More people are malleable then not.

If Dart suddenly starts appearing in mock drafts as a top 10 pick after the combine this thread will take a very different direction.

This was discussed in another thread.

After Bo Nix's Pro day he was pegged to go the Denver.

Bo Nix pro day takeaways: Oregon QB confirms worth as first-round pick in 2024 NFL Draft | Sporting News

Bo Nix went back to Oregon's campus in Eugene to work out again for NFL talent evaluators. Here's how he added to his fine performance at the NFL Combine, bringing his first-round status more into focus.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[3ParStillDriver]

This was discussed in another thread.

After Bo Nix's Pro day he was pegged to go the Denver.

Bo Nix pro day takeaways: Oregon QB confirms worth as first-round pick in 2024 NFL Draft | Sporting News

Bo Nix went back to Oregon's campus in Eugene to work out again for NFL talent evaluators. Here's how he added to his fine performance at the NFL Combine, bringing his first-round status more into focus.

www.sportingnews.com

Right, but there's much here to consider. For starters prior to that pro day this board considered the possibility of him in the 1st round a complete joke. Also, you did have that report but somewhere around half of mock drafts still had him in the 2nd round leading up to the draft, and likewise was the mentality of this board. Lastly, there were people still laughing at Payton when that picked happened and ridiculing him, "grateful that we moved on from a washed up coach".

Which only further makes my point.

 

[MikeyF]

Right, but there's much here to consider. For starters prior to that pro day this board considered the possibility of him in the 1st round a complete joke. Also, you did have that report but somewhere around half of mock drafts still had him in the 2nd round leading up to the draft, and likewise was the mentality of this board. Lastly, there were people still laughing at Payton when that picked happened and ridiculing him, "grateful that we moved on from a washed up coach".

I don't think people were laughing at Payton...
Every NFL talking head knew the Broncos needed a QB.

What people didn't expect was the improvement Payton was able to get out of Bo Nix in his rookie year!
Bo Nix play was pretty bad in his first 3 starts...
Payton definitely showed this year that he is a good coach & that he can win without Drew Brees as his QB.

 

[TribuneUK]

So, you would take your future starting QB ( if that’s your guy) at the end of the first round but not earlier. Ranking picks is a crapshoot, losing your guy to another team ( ie Mahommes) can set you back years just as picking the wrong guy can also. I just wanted to start a conversation to show the complete buy in on the consensus of “ know it all” draft geeks. QBs are really a class by themselves, Purdy was almost undrafted, Brady was 6th round and no one knew how they would play until the bullets starting flying.

Just FYI, Mahomes was not 'our guy'. He was not a target and was expected by the team to go earlier than our pick.

If you look at the history of this team and how they aggressively trade up for someone they've targeted pre-draft, this tells you they had no plans to draft Mahomes, unless he dropped in their laps. Which he didn't.

So all this woulda, coulda, shoulda that people love to propagate is just more of that hindsight criticism they seem compelled to dream up.

To be fair, the Saints were delighted enough teams reached for dreadful WR prospects to drop Lattimore down to us. Glad they did.

 

[MikeyF]

Just FYI, Lattimore was 'our guy' in that draft. Mahomes was expected by the team to go earlier than our pick.

To be fair, they were delighted enough teams reached for dreadful WR prospects to drop Lattimore down to us.

I'm hoping this is what happens with Graham this year!
He falls to us at 9.

 

[St. Geezy]

Would rather not invest a top 10 pick asset on a non-elite QB that doesn’t check all the proverbial boxes.

If we stay put, I’d prefer a round 2 guy if we absolutely must draft someone and someone we like is there.

Too much better, potentially elite talent at other positions to gamble on a QB at 9 just for the sake of needing/wanting a good young QB.