How would you feel with Jaxson Dart at 9? (6 Viewers)

[Nightshade]

This is yet another variation I've yet to see reported by anyone with credentials. Misinformation is rife.

Again, if the Chiefs were waiting for a call from a draft prospect to tell them what their draft strategy should be, then they aren't running an NFL team in the first place. That's just .

I never said he set their draft strategy or he called them it normal.for a team to call a player letting them know they planned to draft him and if that report was true then Payton should've have waited to make the call.


Here is a quote from Mahomes

Patrick Mahomes Details How He Got Drafted by Chiefs

On the New Heights podcast, Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes explains how he got drafted by the team.

www.si.com

"I kind of gave a little inside info to the Chiefs and was like 'Hey, if y'all let me go 12 or below, I'm going to get drafted by someone else. ' So I gave the Chiefs a little bit of info on that because I wanted to be here."

 

[fishing4food]

Tyler Warren fills so many more holes in our offense moving past Taysom than Jeanty. Jeanty is great but Warren could be the smarter selection.

For once, I agree with you. But, just this once.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

i'm very luke

Understandable.

I think the guy has a ceiling as high as LaDainian and at absolute worst, his floor is Mark Ingram.

I’d take my chances on the blocking part that we can get him sound in that department if he isn’t already.

This is all based on if we grade him out to a value worthy of pick 9

Big people beat up little people. We’ve gotten away from drafting that way last few years and have taken many exceptions at positions and it’s come back to bite us.

I think it’s also important to know that the success of a RB depends on Oline and QB he’s working w/. Barkley and Henry had subpar years in 2023 which is why their teams were ok w/ letting them walk. Both went to teams w/ good QBs and Oline.

Put Henry back on Titans w/ Levis and their oline and he’s back to 3.5 ypc. We need to establish our QB position first and add more weapons.

RB is a need I just don’t think Jeanty needs to go to a team and be part of a 3 man rotation like he will be here to degree.

Even when we did that by adding Alvin we waited till 3rd round to add to the stable.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

I was already expecting him to jump boards after his combine and pro day, but at this rate I don't think we could rule out him becoming the #1 QB over Cam Ward.

 

[Covington Saint]

jets are the latest buzz team w dart.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Tyler Warren fills so many more holes in our offense moving past Taysom than Jeanty. Jeanty is great but Warren could be the smarter selection.

My exact line of thinking. I would prefer Warren over Jeanty, but I also recognize that Moore seems to have placed a very high priority on RB wherever he's been. Dallas he had Tony Pollard drafted while Elliot was on the roster. Chargers he had Ekeler who was just coming off a monster year. And with the Eagles he lobbied hard for Barkley in FA.

 

[St. Geezy]

I was already expecting him to jump boards after his combine and pro day, but at this rate I don't think we could rule out him becoming the #1 QB over Cam Ward.

Good…one more player that guarantees someone from my bubble will be there for us at 9.

Ashton Jeanty, Mason Graham, Abdul Carter, Will Johnson, Tet McMillan, and Malaki Starks.

Jeanty and Johnson are pretty much the apples of my eye in this draft based on where we pick though. Carter is too but he’s almost certain to be long gone.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

jets are the latest buzz team w dart.

Every team who needs a franchise QB will be a buzz team with Dart at one point or another.

 

[Nightshade]

Every team who needs a franchise QB will be a buzz team with Dart at one point or another.

Not counting us that's the Titans, Browns, Giants, Jets, Raiders and Colts

 

[HogsNSaints]

Kellen: “We’ve got Jaxson Dart at home.”

* Saints sign Will Grier to the practice squad.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Good…one more player that guarantees someone from my bubble will be there for us at 9.

Ashton Jeanty, Mason Graham, Abdul Carter, Will Johnson, Tet McMillan, and Malaki Starks.

Jeanty and Johnson are pretty much the apples of my eye in this draft based on where we pick though. Carter is too but he’s almost certain to be long gone.

I have a feeling its going to be offense. Offensive head coach, without a franchise QB, and the only star is an aged RB? If I were a betting man, I would say its going to be Jeanty or Dart (big gamble with small odds).

I'd really like to see the Nuss reunion work out just because it would be so easy and investing to root for emotionally. But part of me would also get a kick out of us drafting Dart just to watch this board burn with anger.

Really though, I'm hoping for Warren first and Jeanty second.

 

[faceman]

I watched several Ole Ms. games. The biggest issue I saw was he's looking for the big play first. There are
times you need to check down. The Kentucky game was a good example. The Wildcats were able to get quick
pressure and take away the big plays. That said,if Moore feels he's our guy I'll trust his opinion. I don't believe
he'll take him at 9 though

 

[TribuneUK]

Here is a quote from Mahomes

Patrick Mahomes Details How He Got Drafted by Chiefs

On the New Heights podcast, Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes explains how he got drafted by the team.

www.si.com

"I kind of gave a little inside info to the Chiefs and was like 'Hey, if y'all let me go 12 or below, I'm going to get drafted by someone else. ' So I gave the Chiefs a little bit of info on that because I wanted to be here."

No, you're right about that quote, although I note it doesn't seem to say anything about the team concerned or the timing.

I read your comment as him calling them, after being called by the Saints to say they were about to draft him. Very probably my misinterpretation of what you meant on that front.

 

[TribuneUK]

it normal.for a team to call a player letting them know they planned to draft him and if that report was true then Payton should've have waited to make the call.

So in respect of this part, it comes back to the story I struggle with, that we called a player before the pick went in *and* giving enough time for the Chiefs to consummate a trade with the team picking above them.

The call should normally be made to the player *at just about the same time* as the pick has been phoned in to the team rep at the Draft, to turn in their pick. This is how it's done, not while the previous team is still making a pick.

I have heard of a team trying to tie up a player's phone when someone is about to draft them just in front, but that's desperate stuff. I'm also aware of the Raiders once drafting a player who was dead, which is probably another reason teams want to call them in the first place!

Basically it all still feels like a need to blame Payton somehow, when in fact the Chiefs had a good idea who else wanted Mahomes, saw him fall to #10 and knew that was when they had to step in. It wasn't a call from the Saints to Mahomes that changed any of that.

The most likely scenario is that the Saints told Mahomes in pre draft conversation quite some time before the day that they had an interest in him, which multiple teams do to multiple players, often including those they never draft at all, as well as drafting those they've not even spoken to. It means little.

 

[St. Widge]

Big people beat up little people. We’ve gotten away from drafting that way last few years and have taken many exceptions at positions and it’s come back to bite us.

I think it’s also important to know that the success of a RB depends on Oline and QB he’s working w/. Barkley and Henry had subpar years in 2023 which is why their teams were ok w/ letting them walk. Both went to teams w/ good QBs and Oline.

Put Henry back on Titans w/ Levis and their oline and he’s back to 3.5 ypc. We need to establish our QB position first and add more weapons.

RB is a need I just don’t think Jeanty needs to go to a team and be part of a 3 man rotation like he will be here to degree.

Even when we did that by adding Alvin we waited till 3rd round to add to the stable.

That's my issue with Jeanty at #9. If you don't have a great OL and at least a good QB, it's relatively easy for NFL teams to neutralize a good or even great RB. There are few exceptions to that rule like Barry Sanders and Marshall Faulk, but with Faulk it was because of the threat he was in the passing game. I don't see Jeanty as the elite level guy that can not be neutralized by a defense. If for no other reason he's not shown to be elite in the passing game like guys like Faulk and even Kamara and Reggie Bush.

We saw it in the Super Bowl. The Chiefs decided to stop Barkley, who is a great RB, and they did it. Philly won because they had the WR talent and QB to make the Chiefs pay for it. They also had a play caller smart enough to take advantage of it while not abandoning the run.

So, if Jeanty really is BPA at #9 I get taking him and then getting those other things later, but I can't help but think that a trade down for more picks makes more sense for this team with it's lack of overall talent and depth. I think the best situation for this team is for an equally good player, or better, at another position to fall to them. Hopefully that guy is Mason Graham, but they should be open to other positions. And if that doesn't happen then you trade down to build overall talent and depth.