I guess I need to stop eating red meat. (3 Viewers)

[TheRealJRad]

I don't count any macros or calories, I just eat twice a day until I feel full.

Yea same (well sameish, I usually do 3, but 1-2 are smoothies). If I had to guess, I average 4 red meat meals a week. I do that for lunch but my breakfast and dinner are usually lighter/fairly clean meals. I also like to take the dogs for a walk after eating, kinda kick start the digestion. I've been dropping weight pretty consistently, and I'm not really worried about diabetic risk either - the part of my diet that isn't red meat is generally pretty healthy.

I order my meat online though, I don't really find grocery store meat that great. It's a little pricier, but I don't think it's too out of line for quality stuff (and not having to go to a butcher)

 

[Consigliere]

You don't need to give up red meat forever - just give it up until the next study shows that it is OK.

Remember that end-all-be-all study from last year that said "no amount of alcohol is healthy" - well now it is OK again.

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[itztime]

I hope more people buy into this and stop consuming red meat so the prices come down for those of us unconcerned.

Preach! I went to buy "Flank Steak" for fajitas at friggin Wal-Mart (my only choice in town besides Piggly Wiggly whose meat counter specializes in 5 for $25 selection) and it was $20 for a 1.5 pounds. I can go to the Mexican restaurant and order fajitas for 2 and pay $25 and get more and not have to cook.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

For the last two years my diet has consisted of primarily eggs, ground beef, ribeye steak, and every so often I have some wild caught salmon. I try to buy my beef from a local butcher but he often runs out so I do have to frequent the regular grocery store for my meat. As for my treats to myself I will have oatmeal every other week or so, and every time I do it gives me the worst gas and bloating, but I still love the taste. I also sometimes will make my father's baked beans recipe every couple months or so, and I pay for it when I eat that too.

I don't count any macros or calories, I just eat twice a day until I feel full. But if I had to guess it's between 2000-2500 a day depending on the size of steak I eat.

People can scream anecdotal all they want. But I am 50 years old and have not been in this good of health in 20 years.

I eat red meat most days. Occasionally I’ll eat chicken but I am just not really a fan. I will also occasionally eat fish or shellfish. About 1.5 months ago I cut out all grains. The only starch I eat is fruits, veggies and I still eat sweet & regular potatoes. I already didn’t really eat dairy and rarely drink these days.

I feel much better not eating grains. It took some getting used to when working out. Felt dizzy for about a week but then my body adjusted.

Basically I’ve cut out grains & processed foods & dairy with the exception of the occasional grass fed Greek yogurt and the occasional treat but usually stick to salted dark chocolate.

It’s kind of boring way to eat but it works for me.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

the part of my diet that isn't red meat is generally pretty healthy.

That's the thing. Red meat is healthy, it is one of the most nutrient dense foods you can eat.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

I eat red meat most days. Occasionally I’ll eat chicken but I am just not really a fan. I will also occasionally eat fish or shellfish. About 1.5 months ago I cut out all grains. The only starch I eat is fruits, veggies and I still eat sweet & regular potatoes. I already didn’t really eat dairy and rarely drink these days.

I feel much better not eating grains. It took some getting used to when working out. Felt dizzy for about a week but then my body adjusted.

Basically I’ve cut out grains & processed foods & dairy with the exception of the occasional grass fed Greek yogurt and the occasional treat but usually stick to salted dark chocolate.

It’s kind of boring way to eat but it works for me.

I was worried it would be boring too, but I would rather eat to live life, than live life just to eat.

 

[TheRealJRad]

That's the thing. Red meat is healthy, it is one of the most nutrient dense foods you can eat.

I didn't mean to imply it wasn't - if the context of the discussion is "red meat is linked to diabetes", I'm saying the rest of my diet isn't.

I feel you like you think I'm arguing with you but I'm agreeing. I think looking at dietary risks is something you look at your entire diet for, not one thing (aside from obviously awful crap)

 

[Consigliere]

My consumption of beef is limited mainly by morality rather than health. I have no problem eating animals, which is my right as top of the food chain. But torture is not appetizing. Knowing (after trying to ignore) the horrible things that can be done to cows, we (try to) buy only (usually) pasture-raised grass-fed "happy cow" beef, which is great but hard to find and quite pricey.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

I was worried it would be boring too, but I would rather eat to live life, than live life just to eat.

That’s what I keep moving towards. So many things health related are related to our diet. The closer you stay to unprocessed foods, the better off you’ll be. It’s too hard to keep up with the fads and latest trend of what will give you diabetes or this or that disease and this and that rule. The easiest thing for me is to just stick to mostly natural and unprocessed foods.

And the food industry lobby for their b s & interests as well so I don’t trust government or any corporation to say what is or isn’t good for us. Just have to stick to common sense & keep things close to how nature intended.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

My consumption of beef is limited mainly by morality rather than health. I have no problem eating animals, which is my right as top of the food chain. But torture is not appetizing. Knowing (after trying to ignore) the horrible things that can be done to cows, we (try to) buy only (usually) pasture-raised grass-fed "happy cow" beef, which is great but hard to find and quite pricey.

Agree, I abhor the treatment of animals in commercial live stock farms. Plus grass fed/finished beef is far better for you as well. Same with eggs, I will only eat pasture raised eggs as well.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

That’s what I keep moving towards. So many things health related are related to our diet. The closer you stay to unprocessed foods, the better off you’ll be. It’s too hard to keep up with the fads and latest trend of what will give you diabetes or this or that disease and this and that rule. The easiest thing for me is to just stick to mostly natural and unprocessed foods.

And the food industry lobby for their b s & interests as well so I don’t trust government or any corporation to say what is or isn’t good for us. Just have to stick to common sense & keep things close to how nature intended.

Did you see about 3 months ago the spate of news articles trying to push the notion that a highly processed plant based diet is good for you?

 

[TheRealJRad]

Same with eggs, I will only eat pasture raised eggs as well.

You can absolutely tell the difference too. I’ve had eggs fresh off a farm, cheap eggs don’t even come close to the same flavor.

 

[Consigliere]

Did you see about 3 months ago the spate of news articles trying to push the notion that a highly processed plant based diet is good for you?

Brought to you by the National Cattlemen's Beef Association.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

Did you see about 3 months ago the spate of news articles trying to push the notion that a highly processed plant based diet is good for you?

I did not. I've done plant based for brief periods a couple times in my life. I think the longest was 6 weeks. I was always hungry and there was still quite a bit of processed stuff I was eating.

I remember when beyond meat became a thing. I tried it out and it really messed my stomach up. If you look at what it's made of, there's nothing healthy about it.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

I did not. I've done plant based for brief periods a couple times in my life. I think the longest was 6 weeks. I was always hungry and there was still quite a bit of processed stuff I was eating.

I remember when beyond meat became a thing. I tried it out and it really messed my stomach up. If you look at what it's made of, there's nothing healthy about it.

Ultra-Processed Foods Can Be Healthy if They’re Mostly Vegan, USDA Study Suggests

Are all ultra-processed foods bad? USDA study looks at how combining plant-based, processed foods such as instant oatmeal, canned beans, and dried fruit can be part of a healthy diet.

vegnews.com