Im So Upset With Day 2 Draft Strategy (2 Viewers)

[Surviving Saint]

He's not exactly wrong is he?



27.2% is laughable

Enter Jeff Ireland?

 

[insidejob]

I cannot recall the last time the OP had anything positive to say about anyone in the Saints organization. I really can't.

 

[WhoDat!5]

Come here son!

 

[Surviving Saint]

I cannot recall the last time the OP had anything positive to say about anyone in the Saints organization. I really can't.

He hasnt posted again in his thread. I think he is the biggest troll here.

 

[whodatdabeaux]

I cannot recall the last time the OP had anything positive to say about anyone in the Saints organization. I really can't.

We should stone him. Just kidding..

 

[insidejob]

We should stone him. Just kidding..

He should just get stoned...might not get so pissy pants about any and everything this team does.

 

[RaginCajun83]

Saints needed 3 bonafide defensive çontributors. Drafting someone like Alabama DT Reed would have given the flexiblity to move Rankins around on the line.

Keeping your third and 4th round selections would have filled your OG and WR need with quality instant contributors with someone like Vladal Alexander and any number of WR Marques Colston possession clones.

In a draft where you need immediate impact with holes to fill, the Saints and Mickey Loomis let Sean Payton have his way with his toys and the drafting of a DB leaves a lot to be desired as these {mod edit} have proven they are incapable of picking that position with the misses, misutilizations, and lack of growth, development, and scheme fit considering the resources and ROI weve had at DB under this regime.

We truly need a REAL GM who has the balls to be anything other than a Yes man for the head coach.

Bottom line, yoy can get an instant quality end or DT or LB in round 2, but you wont find that in rounds 3 and 4. What you will find in rounds 3 and 4 are immediate impact guards and receivers.

This front office is terrible at drafting, terrible at determining value with both draft picks and contract negotiations.

We are in and have been in this position perpetually and fail to look in the mirror and realize "hey, we havent had success at this position year after year, perhaps we need to hire someone that knows how to spot and develop where we keep swinging and missing.

Tom needs a moment of clarity

Go eat a praline

 

[willkro]

should we just sit where we were and hope that someone drops as the field becomes deluted, and draft a guard or end who won't even make the team? Or trade up and go after a player who you feel can ? They have signed some good players with little or no money in free agency to improve this team. I trust them.

 

[lforet2002]

That's what the draft is about ... making picks, discussing picks, personnel moves, etc. So, you just want rah-rah-rah's no matter what picks and personnel moves are made??? Soooo, what, ... no dissenting opinions? Just be a fan and say that everything is just awesome even if we have another losing season with an embarrassing defense???

Okay. Have fun with that. I'll continue to see past the pom-pom's and the pep rallies and wonder what this team really needs to turn around a 2-year losing trend and 3 of the last 4.

Whats going on here with the fans is beyond dissenting opinions and constructive criticism of the Saints pics its outright stupidity by some..The "seasons over" and all the "we'll be no better" and all the " I'm done with the Saints" BS... Especially when the team hasn't even taken a practice snap or had a workout..

 

[HoumaSaint]

First, have YOU been HAPPY about the last three years??? I know I haven't. There have been some happy moments, but overall the last 3 years have been disappointing overall at best. Other words that come to mind are frustrating, upsetting, maddening, confusing ...

So, I don't think you have a leg to stand on when you infer that someone is missing something if they are upset about the last 3 years.

Second, I was upset about the 2nd day as well. The Saints biggest holes going into the draft were DL, LB, CB, G, not necessarily in that order. With the #1 passing offense in the NFL and the WORST DEFENSE IN NFL HISTORY, the one position they had absolutely no business drafting was receiver. They had to go full defense except for guard.

How much better can the offense, especially the passing offense REALLY be?? They're the BEST IN THE NFL RIGHT NOW.

So, drafting a receiver, especially TRADING UP to draft a receiver, is just another sign that Payton really can't control himself. He's still go the virus in his blood. It will never really go away.

The Saints needed someone in the middle of the DL to stop the run, AND they needed a top-flight game-changing edge rusher. At the very least, they needed another starter at linebacker ... are we going to the 3-4 OR NOT??? I don't get it. Who are the 4 starting linebackers right now?? Mystifying to me.

Then, you draft a FS, I guess to replace Byrd?? This is just an admission that Byrd was a HUGE HUGE HUGE MISTAKE.

I know it's hard to swallow, but, other than Rankins, I don't think this team improved.

Who is going to take Evans's spot at G???

Yeah, I hear Payton's reasons for taking those picks, but I don't see that those were needs that were higher than the ones I listed, which were the same ones that everyone in the country listed for the Saints ... because they were OBVIOUS to everyone. We had a hard time protecting Drew Brees consistently last season, and we must protect him more every year the older that he gets. And, we hve the worst defense in NFL history. So, let's get a WR and a S where we already have a 1st round pick and the most expensive FS in the NFL.

Just shaking my head.

I will pull for the Saints like I do every year. I hope they win 16 games and go to the Super Bowl. I hope I'm wrong about these picks and Payton is right, but Payton is far from perfect in his selections over the last 10 years, especially recently.

this is proof that you are here just to *****

 

[Saintshizzle]

You've been perpetually upset for like the past 3 years.

C'mon man, give him a break. It's not like the last three years have been glowing models of success, in either. Let him vent, bc that's all I took this as...venting.

 

[St.Fury]

Saints needed 3 bonafide defensive çontributors. Drafting someone like Alabama DT Reed would have given the flexiblity to move Rankins around on the line.

Keeping your third and 4th round selections would have filled your OG and WR need with quality instant contributors with someone like Vladal Alexander and any number of WR Marques Colston possession clones.

In a draft where you need immediate impact with holes to fill, the Saints and Mickey Loomis let Sean Payton have his way with his toys and the drafting of a DB leaves a lot to be desired as these {mod edit} have proven they are incapable of picking that position with the misses, misutilizations, and lack of growth, development, and scheme fit considering the resources and ROI weve had at DB under this regime.

We truly need a REAL GM who has the balls to be anything other than a Yes man for the head coach.

Bottom line, yoy can get an instant quality end or DT or LB in round 2, but you wont find that in rounds 3 and 4. What you will find in rounds 3 and 4 are immediate impact guards and receivers.

This front office is terrible at drafting, terrible at determining value with both draft picks and contract negotiations.

We are in and have been in this position perpetually and fail to look in the mirror and realize "hey, we havent had success at this position year after year, perhaps we need to hire someone that knows how to spot and develop where we keep swinging and missing.

Tom needs a moment of clarity

"Come her, son." Between Mickey, Sean, and Ireland, the three of them have more football knowledge in their pinky fingers than you or I will ever have. You are not a coach or scout, and generally have no clue what you're talking about. You seriously need to take a step back and get off of your high horse. You haven't been happy about anything the organization has done in years, even with the early signs on last years draft looking pretty solid, after a major scouting department overhaul.

 

[cutter11]

You should complain more. Or go see a therapist.


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Naw. No need for therapist. Just needs to take two Pamprin and go to bed. It'll be o.k. in a couple hours.

 

[SaintsW1n]

reeks of hubris

Guess what else takes "hubris"?

Taking over the post-Katrina Saints in 2006 as a rookie coach and winning the Super Bowl four seasons later.

 

[NorfolkedSaint]

I love how everyone will bash someone's opinion on the draft when it isn't seen through black and gold glasses.

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