N/S Jane Slater: Coach Prime met with resistance after asking for more money for NIL and his staff (17 Viewers)

[DerrickB]

 

[No2DC]

Jerry is just winging it.

 

[SweetT]

I would love to see Deion as Cowboys' Coach.

Regarding NIL, every college coach in the country should be asking their AD for more money. Though in Deion's case, his presence is what should be attracting community and corporate NIL.

Why should the AD commit more to Deion when he's already proving to them he's a flight risk? Plus their donors may be fine with having had 2 fun seasons of Deion and his posse, always suspecting it was short-term.

I agree with you, but to be completely honest, the NCAA needs to have super strict rules regarding NIL. It was never intended to be what it is today. It was never intended to “buy” players.

 

[No2DC]

Deon is using Jerry to get more money from the Buffs, and I can't see them saying no. Despite the hate, he has successfully turned around two college programs. No, Colorado is not a powerhouse, but they were a one-win team when he got there. Now, they just had their first Heisman winner in decades and two players who will probably go in the top 10. I don't think he should go to the Cowboys because Dak is the starter just because of his contract.

 

[texasjefe]

I agree with you, but to be completely honest, the NCAA needs to have super strict rules regarding NIL. It was never intended to be what it is today. It was never intended to “buy” players.

Sure it was. The bags under the table are now legal and on the table. Players are now paid their market value for their football talents, for which before NIL they were chattel, enriching the university only for which they generated an s-ton of revenue. Not to mention risking their physical future and livelihood.(Some will bring up the free ride in school as adequate compensation, but that's not fooling anyone anymore.)

The NCAA and the courts are close to implementing Revenue Sharing, where universities' athletic departments can allocate up to 22% of their revenues to pay athletes, capped at $20.5M per school. That ceiling will rise incrementally over the next 4 years.

The revenue sharing formula for college sports in 2025 is expected to be based on a 75-15-5-5 formula. This formula allocates 75% of the revenue to football, 15% to men's basketball, and 5% each to women's basketball and other sports.

The formula is based on a settlement between the NCAA and power conferences in response to antitrust lawsuits. The revenue sharing will begin in the 2025-2026 academic year.

Now, what the NCAA does not have jurisdiction over are the community and corporate collectives that operate outside of the schools. An example is Quinn Ewers in a Dr. Pepper commercial. Only Congress can regulate those.

Where is the sport headed? Going to be hard to rein NIL in. If anything, players will push to get 50-50 rev share from schools, not 22-78 share.
I would not be shocked if the trajectories one day lead to an SEC-Big Ten "pro" league, and/or, that college football business is totally severed from the universities, who will just license their name and likeness to their proxy team. The old world is over. The era of student-athletes first has been swept away by the roaring roll of capitalism.

Here's a decent AP article from May on the rapidly evolving landscape.

With revenue sharing coming to college sports, are NIL collectives a problem or part of a solution?

When the NCAA lifted its longtime ban on college athletes monetizing their names, images and likenesses in 2021, there was no such thing as NIL collectives.

apnews.com

 

[la. champ1]

Well he’s not lying or playing games. In order to be competitive in college football today you have to invest period. He’s not wrong for asking for more NIL and coaches salary’s as they ranked 44th. If they don’t get more money coaches leave for better opportunities. Also have to say he’s proven under the right circumstances he can make the program competitive. If they truly want to be competitive as a program have to open the checkbook and fund raise. LSU just figured that out.

 

[SweetT]

Sure it was. The bags under the table are now legal and on the table. Players are now paid their market value for their football talents, for which before NIL they were chattel, enriching the university only for which they generated an s-ton of revenue. Not to mention risking their physical future and livelihood.(Some will bring up the free ride in school as adequate compensation, but that's not fooling anyone anymore.)

The NCAA and the courts are close to implementing Revenue Sharing, where universities' athletic departments can allocate up to 22% of their revenues to pay athletes, capped at $20.5M per school. That ceiling will rise incrementally over the next 4 years.

The revenue sharing formula for college sports in 2025 is expected to be based on a 75-15-5-5 formula. This formula allocates 75% of the revenue to football, 15% to men's basketball, and 5% each to women's basketball and other sports.

The formula is based on a settlement between the NCAA and power conferences in response to antitrust lawsuits. The revenue sharing will begin in the 2025-2026 academic year.

Now, what the NCAA does not have jurisdiction over are the community and corporate collectives that operate outside of the schools. An example is Quinn Ewers in a Dr. Pepper commercial. Only Congress can regulate those.

Where is the sport headed? Going to be hard to rein NIL in. If anything, players will push to get 50-50 rev share from schools, not 22-78 share.
I would not be shocked if the trajectories one day lead to an SEC-Big Ten "pro" league, and/or, that college football business is totally severed from the universities, who will just license their name and likeness to their proxy team. The old world is over. The era of student-athletes first has been swept away by the roaring roll of capitalism.

Here's a decent AP article from May on the rapidly evolving landscape.

With revenue sharing coming to college sports, are NIL collectives a problem or part of a solution?

When the NCAA lifted its longtime ban on college athletes monetizing their names, images and likenesses in 2021, there was no such thing as NIL collectives.

apnews.com

No, the concept of NIL, was to allow players to make money off of their likeness, through jersey sales, autograph signings etc. It was never intended for wealthy billionaire alumni, to buy these players straight out of high school.

 

[saintfan1972]

I agree with you, but to be completely honest, the NCAA needs to have super strict rules regarding NIL. It was never intended to be what it is today. It was never intended to “buy” players.

This. NIL is killing college football. Just a minor league for the NFL. Its not the same anymore

 

[No2DC]

This. NIL is killing college football. Just a minor league for the NFL. Its not the same anymore

So it's okay for the schools and coaches to get al the money? elite college players always got paid, it was just under the table. The amateur and student-athlete label was always bullljive. Every starter for a school like LSU or Georgia should be making at least the equivalent on an entry-level salary in their state. Rhodes scholars and Nobel prize faculty members don't bring money into these schools like top football and basketball programs. How much indirect money do you think Deion brought to Colorado over the past couple years?

 

[3ParStillDriver]

I have no idea how he would be as a NFL coach but I hope he goes to Dallas for the entertainment value and because they wouldn’t be taking anyone we’re looking at.

My thoughts were originally the same, but I just realized the Cowboys would get a lot of nationally covered games. Now I hope it doesn't happen. Watching the Cowboys and listening to announcers suck their jock straps is about as fun as plucking nose hair.

 

[CRESS_137]

I mean, he talked like he was committed to staying in Boulder. He also spent a lot of time talking about how historically black colleges were so important and how great athletes should go there because they were so important. And then he took the first big program job that was offered.

But, everyone should have known that neither Jackson State nor Colorado were going to be high profile enough for a man that essentially named himself Prime Time.

The guy will pretty much say anything people want to hear. Cult of personality reigns supreme in America these days.

 

[texasjefe]

No, the concept of NIL, was to allow players to make money off of their likeness, through jersey sales, autograph signings etc. It was never intended for wealthy billionaire alumni, to buy these players straight out of high school.

Are you new to our wonderful country? haha

Money is free speech in our oligarchy. No different for college football. There is no middle ground. The old way used players as chattel.

The NCAA was defanged a long time ago because they only selectively enforced, and they were draconian to some, while ignoring others. They guarded the old world. Now, they work for the conferences and the conferences tell them what to do or to screw off.

But you need to understand that community and corporate NIL has nothing to do with the NCAA. Employers can hire anybody and pay them what they want, and the recipient just has to make sure they are reporting and compliant with tax law.

If you are disappointed by things like the Michigan billionaire donor flipping LSU's 5 star recruit QB, , maybe write a letter to your congressperson, who is probably owned by the same billionaire donors who are co-invested in owning the players on their favorite college football team.

Land of opportunity (for some), baby.

 

[DerrickB]

No, the concept of NIL, was to allow players to make money off of their likeness, through jersey sales, autograph signings etc. It was never intended for wealthy billionaire alumni, to buy these players straight out of high school.

LSU won't call Gayle and ask for a favor huh. Lol
(Joke)

 

[Saint Jack]

No, the concept of NIL, was to allow players to make money off of their likeness, through jersey sales, autograph signings etc. It was never intended for wealthy billionaire alumni, to buy these players straight out of high school.

Wealthy billionaires have been paying players under the table for decades.

 

[texasjefe]

Bottom line, at this moment, it costs $25-$30M per year from any sources to pay for a top competitive football program. Ohio State's donors were super angry and motivated by Michigan's title, and they went all in on "buying" players last offseason. If TheOSU doesn't win Monday and get their ROI, they may well have donor fatigue in the next cycles.