Jaxson Dart: I've tried to model my game after Jalen Hurts. (45 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

A bit of an exaggeration to say he "outdueled" Daniels in the game the Rebs won over the Tigers. There was no defense whatsoever played in that '23 game on either side. And the Tigers won the matchup in '22.

In addition, Ole Miss won that game by running the ball through LSU's terrible defense, not because Dart put on an air show. It was only because Daniels is superhuman that LSU was even in that game. Ole Miss was running all over the defense.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

If it hits you in the right spot, I bet it does hurt.

Fun story. My wife, neighbors and I went to a bar. Got loaded. Playing darts my neighbor decided to stand in front of the dartboard and challenge me to hit the bullseye which required a bit of finesse so that the dart would drop down over his head onto the dart board. I did it, through his hair but was about 2 cm from bullseye. Then my wife tries.

Hit's him square in the forehead. It hurt.

 

[Swampy Saint]

Fun story. My wife, neighbors and I went to a bar. Got loaded. Playing darts my neighbor decided to stand in front of the dartboard and challenge me to hit the bullseye which required a bit of finesse so that the dart would drop down over his head onto the dart board. I did it, but was about 2 cm from bullseye. Then my wife tries.

Hit's him square in the forehead. It hurt.

Ouch!

 

[3ParStillDriver]

In addition, Ole Miss won that game by running the ball through LSU's terrible defense, not because Dart put on an air show. It was only because Daniels is superhuman that LSU was even in that game. Ole Miss was running all over the defense.

389 yds and 4 passing TD's aren't an airshow??

Not to mention 50 yards by Dart and 1 rushing TD on top of that... that some kinda of special imaginary deflection you got there.

 

[Rexman100]

I agree with that (in fact, I think its lower than low), but only because I think they're targeting Nuss in the 2026 draft and using Carr as a bridge for 2025, maybe 2026 as well if they want Nuss to sit a year.

It's really hard for me to imagine Doug doesn't want his son, Garrett leading his offense. Even if Nuss doesn't have a very strong year.

if we didn't restructure Carr, then this would be a likely scenario and a seemingly genius plan. Carr starting assures that we finish with at least 4-5 wins. To get Nuss, its going to take a top 5 pick. He's going to have a monster season in 25. Hes got the most pro-ready arm, where he lacks is pocket mobility and awareness. Last year was his first year starting at LSU, so i expect him to improve his weakness and make a huge Burrow/JD like jump.

 

[dutar76]

If the refs had showed up for the Superbowl, maybe he'd have modeled his game after Mahommes?

I wonder how much the combine does for or against a QB. I'd think QB scouting (other than how fast are the wheels on a run-first type) would be 90% game tape and interviews. Teams can see footwork and throwing motion and get legit height, weight, hands, and other measurables at his pro-day. Game tape shows how a QB handles pressure, throws from off-angles, processes the field, and accuracy/ball placement. Interviews will give you more insight to personality and character. Throwing to wide open receivers running around cones can't account for much can it?

I think Dart is this year's Bo Nix.

 

[los226]

It’s pretty clear that the organization believes in Rattler. He fits their strategy in drafting a QB as late round value and they’ll have to see him flame out after two or three years before they even think about drafting a QB again.

 

[St. Geezy]

if we didn't restructure Carr, then this would be a likely scenario and a seemingly genius plan. Carr starting assures that we finish with at least 4-5 wins. To get Nuss, its going to take a top 5 pick. He's going to have a monster season in 25. Hes got the most pro-ready arm, where he lacks is pocket mobility and awareness. Last year was his first year starting at LSU, so i expect him to improve his weakness and make a huge Burrow/JD like jump.

This just isn’t something you can plan for though. For one, you’d be relying on a certain level of performance to justify the selection as well as to satisfy the scouting aspect of his abilities, but you’d also be having to plan on having a record that’s within draftable range for the player, a range you don’t know as of right now.

This is something that would have to play out by accident, not with foresight.

Now if this was some “can’t miss” type Peyton Manning going into his senior year thing, or like Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck, sure you can somewhat safely plan to lose every game to land the number 1 spot, but even in that case, what if he tears up his knee?

Nuss certainly isn’t that guy and maybe he becomes it, but odds say he probably won’t, so you can’t really plan for it.

Heck, even without Carr I don’t think we have a “First pick in the draft” roster.

 

[St. Widge]

I'd like to announce that I have tried to mold my game after Jalen Hurts. Please draft me in the 1st round of the NFL Draft.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

if we didn't restructure Carr, then this would be a likely scenario and a seemingly genius plan. Carr starting assures that we finish with at least 4-5 wins. To get Nuss, its going to take a top 5 pick. He's going to have a monster season in 25. Hes got the most pro-ready arm, where he lacks is pocket mobility and awareness. Last year was his first year starting at LSU, so i expect him to improve his weakness and make a huge Burrow/JD like jump.

I mostly agree with you but theres a few variables. Yes, Nuss will improve quite a lot, but let's not pretend LSU's offensive play calling was good last year. I may be exaggerating slightly, but you could debate the play calling was bad.

If the play calling turns out similar to last season, its possible Nuss doesn't end up being a top 5 pick. Then again, it may not matter. Look at Dart. His struggles last season weren't because of him, but mostly because of how bad the Ole Miss offensive play calling was. He started the offseason as a estimated 3rd round pick and has now climbed into top 10 pick as people have watched game film, watched him play, and recognize the play calling was doing him a disservice.

 

[St. Widge]

This just isn’t something you can plan for though. For one, you’d be relying on a certain level of performance to justify the selection as well as to satisfy the scouting aspect of his abilities, but you’d also be having to plan on having a record that’s within draftable range for the player, a range you don’t know as of right now.

This is something that would have to play out by accident, not with foresight.

Now if this was some “can’t miss” type Peyton Manning going into his senior year thing, or like Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck, sure you can somewhat safely plan to lose every game to land the number 1 spot, but even in that case, what if he tears up his knee?

Nuss certainly isn’t that guy and maybe he becomes it, but odds say he probably won’t, so you can’t really plan for it.

Heck, even without Carr I don’t think we have a “First pick in the draft” roster.

And it's not like an entire NFL team is going to base their strategy for an entire season and the draft based on their OC in name only, wanting to draft his son to play QB.

And it's still possible that Nuss will be on the board when we draft next year. We don't know where we will be picking or what grade Nuss will get.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

This just isn’t something you can plan for though. For one, you’d be relying on a certain level of performance to justify the selection as well as to satisfy the scouting aspect of his abilities, but you’d also be having to plan on having a record that’s within draftable range for the player, a range you don’t know as of right now.

This is something that would have to play out by accident, not with foresight.

Now if this was some “can’t miss” type Peyton Manning going into his senior year thing, or like Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck, sure you can somewhat safely plan to lose every game to land the number 1 spot, but even in that case, what if he tears up his knee?

Nuss certainly isn’t that guy and maybe he becomes it, but odds say he probably won’t, so you can’t really plan for it.

Heck, even without Carr I don’t think we have a “First pick in the draft” roster.

I'm not sure. We've never been in a situation where a high ranking coach (in this case OC), with plenty of reputation had their son enter the NFL draft. Doug Nuss has been around the league for a long time and has made many connections throughout the league. I agree there are a ton of variables and we'll watch many of them play out. But its also entirely possible that other coaches are afraid of drafting a QB who really wanted to go play for his Dad and may carry a resentment, not to mention practically spitting in the face of a well-respected colleague. Those are two variables that also have to be included.

Sure theres a ton of variables, and even some luck factors. I'm just really, really curious to see how it plays out. I'm extremely curious to see the leagues reaction to it. Say we pick 17 and Raiders pick 8th. Does it seem like Pete Carrol and Tom Brady throw a bone to Moore and Doug Nuss or does it seem more like a complete cut throat Fork* off mentality?

 

[No2DC]

It’s pretty clear that the organization believes in Rattler. He fits their strategy in drafting a QB as late round value and they’ll have to see him flame out after two or three years before they even think about drafting a QB again.

This statement is both accurate and disturbing. We could blame Sean, but he did the exact opposite in his second year in Denver.

 

[Rexman100]

This just isn’t something you can plan for though. For one, you’d be relying on a certain level of performance to justify the selection as well as to satisfy the scouting aspect of his abilities, but you’d also be having to plan on having a record that’s within draftable range for the player, a range you don’t know as of right now.

This is something that would have to play out by accident, not with foresight.

Now if this was some “can’t miss” type Peyton Manning going into his senior year thing, or like Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck, sure you can somewhat safely plan to lose every game to land the number 1 spot, but even in that case, what if he tears up his knee?

Nuss certainly isn’t that guy and maybe he becomes it, but odds say he probably won’t, so you can’t really plan for it.

Heck, even without Carr I don’t think we have a “First pick in the draft” roster.

I agree it cannot be 100% planned, things would have to fall in place. However, what you're suggesting is that its more likely that it can happen than what im saying. I dont know if you realized that. Anyway, I'm also accounting for a player to have a few spots of flexibility by demanding where he wants to play. (ala Eli Manning and the Giants/SD situation) I'm also believing in Nuss to make the jump. So theres a margin of error. But we can circle back to this post next year.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

This statement is both accurate and disturbing. We could blame Sean, but he did the exact opposite in his second year in Denver.

I don't think so. Its very common for teams with franchise QB's who don't have a set in stone backup to continue drafting late round QB's. Patriots did it, Reid did it with the Eagles while having McNabb. Payton did it while having Brees. Dennis Allen did it while having Carr. Packers did it while having Rodgers.

It has a high probability of working out. Essentially, you're saying we want our backup on a cheap rookie deal to allow more salary cap for starters and free agency. You're also hoping to hit two birds with 1 stone, nailing a potential starter that you can trade away for great draft capitol.

It's a common strategy thats been around for a long time.